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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamAngel-Ren View Post
    How is it a major problem? The players that asked for it to be in MS means that they're willing to pay for it.
    Because being a whale is just that annoying. Not everything has to be served on a silver platter to them by paying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunafreya View Post
    CORRECT, they asked for it to be on the cash shop which is a major problem.
    I'm not trying to be mean or anything. But do you think they would've put it somewhere else if people asked? I'm generally asking as these were cash shop items when they were made. So I don't know if people asked for these to be somewhere else if it would've happened. Seeing as these were made by the cash shop team overseas. I dunno.. and I guess we'll never know really. But from my understanding these were always meant for the store.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ko_ View Post
    I'm not trying to be mean or anything. But do you think they would've put it somewhere else if people asked? I'm generally asking as these were cash shop items when they were made. So I don't know if people asked for these to be somewhere else if it would've happened. Seeing as these were made by the cash shop team overseas. I dunno.. and I guess we'll never know really. But from my understanding these were always meant for the store.
    Well, I think if people stopped harping to get it on the cash shop and instead protested that they want this stuff in game en masse we'd probably have a change. Though, maybe that's just going to take a miracle. Sure, they were done by the cash shop team overseas but I do think we should still be able to get them in game even if undyeable or just a similar model.
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    I don't have a problem with the pricing. We can go on all day about how so many things should be account wide instead of per character, but the pricing is on par with other similar items already on the store. That, and at the end of the day, it isn't anything necessary to play the game.

    My problem is how many things seem to be store exclusive nowadays. An old event? Sure, cash shop. Region exclusives being made available in the West? Okay. But things like the ripped Manderville items have no business being in the store, especially since we have no way of knowing how much of our purchases go back towards XIV and not say, the new VII or something. :/
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    This type of thread only exists on items that people really want but not willing to pay for it. You dont see people rage this much when it is those NPC outfit are on mogstation
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    I also want to note that calling the people "whales" that want to buy these items because they simply want to enjoy them, as is usually the case when someone sees something they want in real life such as a nice outfit or a new food that they want to try, you're just making those people tune you out. People are less likely to care what other people think regarding their own wallets when you try to shove your nose in their business and insult them in the process.

    There's no need for name-calling on either side and honestly, pointing the fingers and blaming others for having a disposable income because you don't or because you're not willing to spend that much is just shifting the blame away from SE and your ire onto someone that doesn't really deserve it. You're not helping curb their spending habits, you're enabling them to do it purely out of spite at that point.

    It's fine for people to think it's too expensive for their tastes. It's fine for people to think otherwise and buy it. We all have our different ways of spending and we really shouldn't be faulting one another for it. Imagine the last thing that you bought and someone randomly coming up to you and calling you a "whale" for buying it in real life, both sides are creating a hostile environment by being overly aggressive and condescending towards each other, but more so the people that just resort to the "whale" tactic when they see someone buying something that they don't agree with, but what themselves as well.

    I want a lot of things in real life that I can't otherwise afford, I'm not about to just walk outside and insult every other person I see with them because I feel I deserve them as well. You don't insult someone walking down the street wearing an outfit that you can't afford, but they can...at least, you shouldn't because that's incredibly rude and you could be arrested for harassment. >_>;
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    Last edited by Sigma-Astra; 04-26-2018 at 03:18 AM.

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    ultimately the point of cash shop is to make money so they're going to keep pushing prices to see the limit and people keep buying a ton no matter how expensive they make it so they will keep making it more and more until they find the point where profit falls.

    Kind of how capitalism works. Really doesn't matter at all how much people complain on a forum as long as the cash flow keeps increasing
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    The problem is you already don't buy it, and it keeps coming, because others do. There's no solution you can do that has equivalent weight. Your only hope is they overreach so much that they manage to annoy everyone, and by then its too late, the game is ruined. SW battlefront 2. So the "no" vote is almost always captive to the "yes" vote. And the yes people stay yes for a long time. The yes people literally shifted the industry in the direction of micro transactions. In the end, protesting and not buying don't seem to work, the only thing that does is catastrophe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    The problem is you already don't buy it, and it keeps coming, because others do. There's no solution you can do that has equivalent weight. Your only hope is they overreach so much that they manage to annoy everyone, and by then its too late, the game is ruined. SW battlefront 2. So the "no" vote is almost always captive to the "yes" vote. And the yes people stay yes for a long time. The yes people literally shifted the industry in the direction of micro transactions. In the end, protesting and not buying don't seem to work, the only thing that does is catastrophe.
    You're complaining that a company is selling a product to a market that's willing to pay for it and in enough numbers that it is profitable. There are extremes of this that are actually morally questionable such as slavery and price gouging on essential services and supplies but satisfying a market need for a costume that doesn't actually exist isn't one of them. Moral outrage at the high price of a luxury item IN a luxury service is ridiculous to me.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    You're complaining that a company is selling a product to a market that's willing to pay for it and in enough numbers that it is profitable. There are extremes of this that are actually morally questionable such as slavery and price gouging on essential services and supplies but satisfying a market need for a costume that doesn't actually exist isn't one of them. Moral outrage at the high price of a luxury item IN a luxury service is ridiculous to me.
    When the health of a game is actually affected because "supposed to be normal content" becomes neglected because of a cash shop, heck yea I/we will complain. & i've heard enough about the mmo attraction park bs also because that is pretty bad , someone else quoted disney, leave disney out of this & yes idc that you buy authentic items or even the app, but this game is getting neglected & that is pretty bad, the whole cash shop thing is just making it worst imo.
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    Last edited by Ruf; 04-26-2018 at 12:53 PM.

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