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    Player
    aesteval's Avatar
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    Tae Sylphanas
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    Ultros
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Could be a matter of leveling alt jobs. MSQ might be able to level / gear a couple of jobs for someone, but you do have to make choices and eventually someone will hit a gap if they level enough jobs.
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    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    With Ironworks and Augmented Shire being so insanely accessible at this point 50 and 60 should be easy levels to gear. I think leading up to 50 you're very safe using dungeon drops and NQ vendor whites and if you upgrade to hq white gear at 66 (usually pretty affordable from the mb, I've done it for every class I've taken to 70) you can make it to 70 really comfortably.

    If someone isn't reasonably up to date on their gear it's their own fault and it can be a real detriment to the party, especially as a tank lacking armor or a healer with a poor weapon.
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Phoenix
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    For healer and dps ilvl 270 is pretty fine for every leveling dungeon. But for tank you notice mobs start hit pretty hard in last dungeons.
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    miraidensetsu's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Luno Belfi
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    For healer and dps ilvl 270 is pretty fine for every leveling dungeon. But for tank you notice mobs start hit pretty hard in last dungeons.
    Not quite. For healers, it is harder to keep it up with the heals if the equips is aug-shire and the dungeon is 67+. Specially when your tank is also equiped with full aug-shire. It is possible, but they both will suffer more.
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    Leloa's Avatar
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    Lena Vales
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    Phoenix
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    Machinist Lv 90
    I have poor NPC bought gear when I level anything. But unless it's a tank with lvl 20 caster gear then yes I am concerned (this has happend) But ilvl does not matter at all when leveling.
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Leloa View Post
    I have poor NPC bought gear when I level anything. But unless it's a tank with lvl 20 caster gear then yes I am concerned (this has happend) But ilvl does not matter at all when leveling.
    I saw a dark knight once with caster right side gear. I face palmed.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    George Strong
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 100
    IF your ilvl is too low while doing mostly non endgame dungeons, you're more likely to die as a tank, whether or not you do only small pulls and use def cds at a proper time, and heal less as a healer.
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    Character
    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Not to mention, if you(tank) have a much lower(probably 50+ lower, not exactly sure on when it starts to really have negative affects) ilvl than the rest of the party, you will have a harder time holding agro. If I'm ripping agro off a tank extremely easy, first thing I check is their gear. Having ilvl50 gear in a 50+ dungeon means the tank won't be holding agro for very long.
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    Lineage Razor
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    It's not even remotely uncommon to run into players running Doma Castle or Castrum Abania while still wearing some pieces of gear from Stormblood. This game awards exp MUCH faster than it awards gear, so unless you specifically grind for gear of appropriate level, or purchase it with gil, you WILL eventually begin to lag behind on ilvls. As noted, falling behind on ilvls can result in long, difficult runs of what should be faceroll-easy trash dungeons.

    Since folks often want to rush to 70 as fast as possible, they rarely bother to grind dungeons for gear, and are often low on gil as well (and often have little patience for tracking down the NPCs that could sell NQ gear cheaply).
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    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Since folks often want to rush to 70 as fast as possible, they rarely bother to grind dungeons for gear, and are often low on gil as well (and often have little patience for tracking down the NPCs that could sell NQ gear cheaply).
    I'm sorry if I misunderstand - if you aren't defending these points as legitimate reasons to not be up-to-date on your gear then excuse my post.

    Not being willing to take advantage of the plethora of gearing options available to you is no excuse to have poor gear. Everyone has the same opportunities to gear up, some of which take literally the effort required to google a vendor and teleport to them.


    Wearing Shire gear into Doma and Abania is really just lazy no matter how you spin it - you could have geared up in Bardam's, you could have purchased crafted gear from the MB, you could have purchased NQ whites from a vendor... there are so many options and if in the 'rush to 70' someone feels it's okay to burden their party by not doing any of these that is on them.

    A lot of people justify not gearing up under this idea that the rest of the party will likely be geared just fine but imagine an entire party showing up to Abania in i255 - that's going to be a nightmare 99% of the time and needlessly longer than most runs. They all assumed someone else would pick up their slack.
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