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    What exactly is a "final fantasy feature"? Awful open world content? Terrible UI? Lack of class synergy? Yes, I'd put those on my resume if I was trying to sell my game to the world...

    I'm not saying you're wrong for wanting to play final fantasy, but don't be so naive to think that this game is going to survive with an archaic model in today's mmo world. If 2.0 doesn't westernize (ie. modernize) the entire game then it will fail. In today's market that means it will have a ton of features that WoW so happens to have. And to answer your question, thinking that it is difficult to tell a good story in anything but a vaccuum is really stupid (I didn't buy xiii-2 as I detested xiii), but comparing that to modernizing is not even close to the same scenario. The latter is profitable.

    SE wants to male money and if their projected numbers show that "making large changes to the game's core" (remember that play poll??) is gonna put a billion dollars in their bank account, then they're gonna do that. Whether you personally play or not is no real concern tbh, as someone else will pay for a wow clone that is called Final Fantasy 2.0. I know I would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreyJorildyn View Post
    And to answer your question, thinking that it is difficult to tell a good story in anything but a vaccuum is really stupid .
    Truth to be told, compare JRPGs with stuff like the TES series. TES has a horrible, horrible shallow story with quite literally no involvement from the player's part, because everything needs to interact with everything in an extremely open environment and everything needs to be relevant (otherwise there is no reason to waste resources with it, so why place it). So the story becomes highly diffuse. You might get, say, 4 or 5 quests that together don't have the gametime of half a JRPG that are pretty awesome stories, but not everything is one big, epic and long tale.
    JRPGs play differently, they focus on a single quest and a single tale in detail rather than attempting to follow 2000 things going on at the same time, they are far more linear and focus far more on character development since the cast is more or less static so it gives far more involvement for the player.
    One can only, in fact, tell an amazing story in a 'vacuum', because its like when your old, old, old grandfather starts telling you this great story of his childhood and then starts going off into tangents and then doesn't even remembers what he was talking about any longer. This 'vacuum' is merely focus on that particular tale, leaving other things for a later time.

    By the way, when I mention JRPGs I mean the 'general setup' of a JRPG, some western ones like Mass Effect also fit in there, forex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreyJorildyn View Post
    What exactly is a "final fantasy feature"? Awful open world content? Terrible UI? Lack of class synergy? Yes, I'd put those on my resume if I was trying to sell my game to the world...

    I'm not saying you're wrong for wanting to play final fantasy, but don't be so naive to think that this game is going to survive with an archaic model in today's mmo world. If 2.0 doesn't westernize (ie. modernize) the entire game then it will fail. In today's market that means it will have a ton of features that WoW so happens to have. And to answer your question, thinking that it is difficult to tell a good story in anything but a vaccuum is really stupid (I didn't buy xiii-2 as I detested xiii), but comparing that to modernizing is not even close to the same scenario. The latter is profitable.

    SE wants to male money and if their projected numbers show that "making large changes to the game's core" (remember that play poll??) is gonna put a billion dollars in their bank account, then they're gonna do that. Whether you personally play or not is no real concern tbh, as someone else will pay for a wow clone that is called Final Fantasy 2.0. I know I would.
    You are not wrong but I think if they focus on content and a very good story line, a great atmosphere and a solid system - sure it will take some time but I think that will do a lot for the game. (FF feature)

    Imo they only need time to improve the things in the game and dont need to change everything and make things complicated. Because with every change there is a risk of losing people who like the things as they are.
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