[dev1033] Ideas for a Two-Tier Class System: Jobs on Top of Weapon Specializations

[Anathiel]

Lol whether scythes are their own thing or not is irrelevant, I was just spit balling an idea so you can maintain some semblance of title uniqueness no matter which weapon spec you are. And I don't understand why people don't like the stat bonus idea? Its a sound system. If you're a dark knight/gladiator you're going to be stronger than a paladin/gladiator, the stat bonuses give you that

[Cairdeas]

I still like the idea that you get bonuses from the skills you have equipped based on the stats needed for that skill.

[Anathiel]

Okay I've rethought my stat bonus system. On the gird when leveling your tier one of the bubbles (I'm using sphere grid as it seems we're all famkliar with it) wil be "+2% strength" is that acceptable?

[Anathiel]

Oh and carpe I was wondering...could you modify your list so blood weapon is a regular ability. I was always so pissed at drk's 2hr. To me drks 2hr should've been something that increased your attack so every regular hit, hit like a WS. Lol they fixed drg but never fixed drk, what a shame.

[Anathiel]

Any new input? Still waiting for carpe's take on the tier leveling stat bonus

[Reiku]

Alright I went back and read the main post, and really the only problem I see is that, let's say I want to be an enfeebling drk I would use thau as my weapon...but its a staff...now we're losing class identity. Really the best solution to this is to make tier upgrade unlocks that give you a title specific weapon. Drk=scythe. Now, I didn't say that drk would be completely Limited to scythe but just be able to use it on a different weapoln spec that doesn't necessarily favor it. Thus the penalty system suggested in OP would apply to the scythe because of the thau weapon spec but you could still equip the scythe because you are a dark knight focusing in enfeebling. I'm sorry but I just can't get behind something that has a dark knight equipping a wand and using spirit dart when all your passive traits and abilities will be focused on melee...doesn't seem right to me lol, but maybe that's the sacrifice drk players will have to make to see a system as great as this implemented.

Anathiel,

Assuming we are still using the potency idea. Where certain classes and titles affect the potency of abilities or spells.

Lets take Drain for instance. It's a Thau spell. It favors Dark Knight and Black Mage titles, while favoring the thaumaturge class. So in order for you to reach optimal potency for said spell (Which is an enfeebling spell) you'd have to be DRK/THM.

But you don't want to use wands as a Dark Knight....that's just not very...well...Dark Knight-ish. Just make the grid system (Where you are specializing in enfeebles) alleviate some of if not all -potency from specific enfeebling spells.

So this way you are gaining full potency while still using Scythes, Swords, etc. While other death knights (Ones specialized in weapon damage, etc.) still suffer from the - potency when using this ability, unless they want to sacrifice the weapon abilities from Scythe, Sword, Axe for more enfeebling on a specific fight by switching to a wand. (Where you wouldn't have to because you went down the enfeebling path on your grid.)

Just my take on it.

[Anathiel]

Right, you've once again voiced my thoughts better than I can lmao. Lol, I was just sorta syked about having title specific weapons but I. Think if they did end up doing that, it should be when you've mastered the title. I.E. master dark knight can use scythe regardless of equipped weapon specilization.

And yeah, stat bonuses for enfeebling branch could be a int%

[Cairdeas]

Still hoping this is the path they take with the new job system.

[Anathiel]

Lol shameless bump was shameless cair...but who knows which way they go? I just want some information on it at all.

[northernsky]

Still hoping this is the path they take with the new job system.

Haha good job. Seems like there WILL be a job system, I'm looking forward to see what it will look like