Armor model for characters with tails?

[Colt47]

Okay, this has been bugging me ever since I saw the new paladin AF. Can we please get an armor model that takes into account the races that have tails? Having your tail clip through a cape all day is why I've had to keep glamouring to other armor sets. I know it doubles the work on some armor models, but please! Our tails need love!

[Fredco191]

I heard they did this in 1.0.

[Mhaeric]

I heard they did this in 1.0.

Yes, and no. 2.0 has some as well. The tail often clipped through the tail protector piece that jutted out, or didn't even line up with the hole.

E.g. https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...hole_for_then/

[KisaiTenshi]

Yes, and no. The tail often clipped through the tail protector piece that jutted out.

V1.0 gear actually had the gear designed to fit around the tail however. The clipping issue has more to do with the tail being a fixed animation loop, not a physics-affected thing. Also the tail in V2.0 onwards sticks straight out, where as in V1.0 the tail followed the character's body shape.

[MageBlack]

I heard they did this in 1.0.

They did, look at the Darklight Gear.

[LeoLupinos]

I know it doubles the work on some armor models

Let's stop there. It's not double work, it's just lazy of them. It's super easy to change the model to adapt the tail. If they will spend time doing the actual model, spent the SAME time doing the PROPER model. It's just unjustifiable.

[KisaiTenshi]

Let's stop there. It's not double work, it's just lazy of them. It's super easy to change the model to adapt the tail. If they will spend time doing the actual model, spent the SAME time doing the PROPER model. It's just unjustifiable.

They would need to generate more than one "legs" piece per model however, because one of the Au Ra tails is not like the other, where as the Mi'qote tails are all the same size except the fluffy one. The more or less correct way to solve this is to create a "tail gear" part for all gear that replaces the "tail" on tail'ed characters for each gear that would normally clip through the legs/body gear (or cape). So for any armor, the tail would also be armored, and for clothing (eg caster gear) there would be pocket/cut-out's around the top of the tail where it connects to the legs gear so that the tail can't clip through the legs/body gear. That would reduce the complexity from "clipping through everything and visually ridiculous" to making it look like the clothing/armor was designed to fit the tail and isn't simply a hologram over a naked model.

[LeoLupinos]

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No... actually there are 1 type of leg or every possible combination of Race and gender. They just need to swap the Aura and Miqote ones with a proper design. By proper design I mean by no clipping, not by having armor on tails.

[Colt47]

No... actually there are 1 type of leg or every possible combination of Race and gender. They just need to swap the Aura and Miqote ones with a proper design. By proper design I mean by no clipping, not by having armor on tails.

There's actually more than that which needs improving, but it goes back to the fact that they went too far away from the graphics fidelity angle with FFXIV 2.0 vs 1.0. It's still possible to create a game that has simple enough graphics to run on most machines, yet still handle unique body types. At this point, though, I'd just settle for armor that doesn't conflict with character anatomy.

[KisaiTenshi]

No... actually there are 1 type of leg or every possible combination of Race and gender. They just need to swap the Aura and Miqote ones with a proper design. By proper design I mean by no clipping, not by having armor on tails.

Welcome to Miqo'te butt argument v4.2

It's probably difficult to illustrate what I meant, but I mean having the "tail" as a separate armor piece, like the "hood/visor". So you could do "armor tail on/off".

There's actually more than that which needs improving, but it goes back to the fact that they went too far away from the graphics fidelity angle with FFXIV 2.0 vs 1.0. It's still possible to create a game that has simple enough graphics to run on most machines, yet still handle unique body types. At this point, though, I'd just settle for armor that doesn't conflict with character anatomy.

I think that is where everyone is on the same page. The clipping is ridiculous for Miqo'te tails, and only looks more ridiculous on Au ra with the large tail. Yes they would need to redesign both the body and the legs of every armor to make everything fit, because most of what is being clipped through is the body gear. With the cape on gear that has one, it's visually terrible, and on mounts it's just the silliest thing.