Quote Originally Posted by Deathgiver View Post
Definitely some discrepancies here. When I tank Ifrit I do the following: Everybody gather on tank behind Ifrit, I pull with AA, hit Sentinel, Flash, Provoke, Rampart, sacred Prism and finally cure. Everybody moves out from that point and starts attacking. As they move out I perform the flat blade combo. The total hate generated should be equal too roughly 5k based on his testing, yet about half the time one of the thms pulls hate with his first lightning combo, until Flash and provoke are off cooldown, after which no problem holdig hate for the rest of the fight. Also using sentinel sabatons and +10 enmity belt. I know for a fact none of the mages are outputting 5k damage in a single combo.
Have them meele ifrit or cast 1x Thunder before Sacred Prism Curing. I think it was mentioned somewhere that the cures on them will no increase threat from the caster if the recipient is not on the threat table. This should be the same for Rampart.

If they are just standing there, and not on the threat table you have only generated 1000-2000 threat (depending if the cures are landing on yourself), which is less threat than a lightning combo will generate.

We have all the THM either meele, or Thunder after Voke/Flash and stand there until Sacred Prism are done. They can do 2 Thunder->Thundara combos after and not pull off the MT.

I think that was the case but its easy to test. Meele mob for 50, have 2nd member stand there... engaging member cure the 2nd member. If it doesn't provide threat the 1st member will still only have 50 threat, 2nd member just needs to hit for 100ish and see if he pulls.

In any case threat is pretty solid for us and we do 3-4 minute Ifrit kills so DPS is pretty high and we go nearly all out at the start.