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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
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    Im not sure i agree cause like besides story potion, somebody playing regulary through MQ and going into Doma Dungeon, which this topic is about (and this would be a problem even with story potion if you ask me), doesnt sound like "someone who is new and dont know better". When someone has not equipped gear which they solely get through MQ which has the right ammount Ilvl imo it has nothing much to do with uninformed. If someone does get that far into the game (we talking several days or even weeks ingame time here) then the issue is something else without realising something that fundemental.

    This means, until this point, the player, forever reason (lets exclude trolling because thats some special case) didnt get the memo. Which is a bad thing so i dont know, if game design wise, simply adding minimum ilvl is like smart and dont carry the issue only to somewhere else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitoo View Post
    This means, until this point, the player, forever reason (lets exclude trolling because thats some special case) didnt get the memo.
    I ran Bardam's Mettle the other day. DRK. Our BLM was in full shire gear at 69, probably a job potion. I had to tell them to use Enochian because they only spammed Fire and Bliz. You're sadly giving hefty chunks of the playerbase far too much credit. Maintaining proper ilvl and even learning your rotation are things many players don't regularly do.

    Which is a bad thing so i dont know, if game design wise, simply adding minimum ilvl is like smart and dont carry the issue only to somewhere else.
    It will keep those people from harming the game experience of the rest of their parties, just like how you should kick and report people who get into a duty and then change into low level gear (unless agreed upon before queueing ofc). More positively, it will tell people "hey, you're doing something wrong". Most people will fix it when told that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    I ran Bardam's Mettle the other day. DRK. Our BLM was in full shire gear at 69, probably a job potion. I had to tell them to use Enochian because they only spammed Fire and Bliz. You're sadly giving hefty chunks of the playerbase far too much credit. Maintaining proper ilvl and even learning your rotation are things many players don't regularly do.



    It will keep those people from harming the game experience of the rest of their parties, just like how you should kick and report people who get into a duty and then change into low level gear (unless agreed upon before queueing ofc). More positively, it will tell people "hey, you're doing something wrong". Most people will fix it when told that.
    No i know about the player in mmorpgs but i dont know how much i really can attribute to "uninformed". If someone does not have gear equiped which is handed to you that even the game auto equips to you. Like imo you need to go out of your way to achive something like that. So if seriously is a issue, and the issue is attributed to uninformed players, i would rather suggest the game should have fix the teaching part. Like i said seems like really bad game design for me. If the base game, which is arguably more of slog then other mmorpgs, even cant you teach that, which is more basic then not stand in bad things, whats the point?

    But i digress, its nothing like i am opposing to the idea, just my 2 cents more on the root of the problem. But adding minimum Ilvl to leveling especially in ARR is fine
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