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    All of the things you think are failed content are actually fine and were intended to be niche or supplementary. It's ok to have minor things that don't weigh heavily on whether people choose to subscribe or not.

    The only thing I know failed is Diadem, and I think Verminion too unless that has more appreciation in Japan? So far all of the stuff they've added to Stormblood has at least been fun or useful to part of the userbase.

    For what could be improved, I think they will roughly stick to the same formula while it continues to be successful. It would take a dangerously low level of subscribers to pressure any major changes to game design and content structure.
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    Seeing who OP is and knowing their track record... yeah, can't buy this seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    2. Side content is not enough to keep the playerbase happy.

    Ultimate is a failure. Bard perform is a failure. Squadrons are a failure. Fashion Report is a failure. Raid replay is a failure

    They are failures because they are not strong enough to keep many players into the game. They interest a fairly small niche if even that.
    I'm gonna have to disagree with this point.

    - For Ultimate, it had many people streaming their attempts in Twitch and had many viewers looking forward to who would be the first in the world to clear it. (Streams from 5150 come to mind).

    - One's mileage may vary on the bard perform, but people are still willing to use the function and post videos of it.

    - Squadrons can really benefit people in two ways (me being one who uses both to my advantage.)

    1. The food buff, exp buff, and lowering of gear damage manuals really cut costs and time for me when I do dungeons, raid, or craft.

    2. The squadron dungeons are more for people who can't afford to wait for dungeon queues, especially as DPS. I myself complete full Squadron runs in Stone Vigil with the "Ala Mhigan Earrings" equipped, "The Heat of Battle II" activated, and a food buff to level up my Samurai from time to time for 500K exp per run (and I still have spare GC seals in the end for more future runs.)

    - Fashion report helped people socialize and present their finding in Reddit. Helps people earn some MGP to buy some glams, mounts, and minions.

    - Raid Replay also helps one study boss patterns, fight rotations, among other things.

    In short, just because they don't benefit you doesn't mean that they are failures. There are people that use and take advantage of the content being presented to them. They are just not as vocal in the forums.
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    Last edited by RokkuEkkusu; 04-21-2018 at 02:52 PM.
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    There were many people looking forwards to fan fest streams and expansion previews videos, no one would think those are content for this game. If they had put up video and only made ultimate available in fan fest...nothing effectively would have changed much for people. Squadrons...look, you can get much more exp per hour by going down and doing POTD pre 50, doing pvp, doing roulettes, doing your hunting logs for arr jobs, etc. And none of those rely on busted npcs that literally cannot do some of the dungeon mechanics, nor do you need to grind them for two weeks to get them up to the levels to do content (which we had to do.) By the time you get them, you know how to level jobs and you can level them easily in this game.

    Fashion report...it's a list. It's a beast tribe quest, without any of the interactivity of beast tribe missions. You go to reddit, you buy a few pieces or put them off, you get the rating, you are done. Raid replay was mostly because if you care about it, you already have tools to record video, tools, that are unlimited in usage.

    This stuff is junk. You get more interactivity out of the mini cacpot than fashion report. The fashion report is so lazy that you can go to it at level 15, never even talk to redolent rose, and the dialogue is exactly the same as if you met him. You can not even bother with it, show up in any gear, and get a free 10k mgp. Please have some standards for content
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    Last edited by RiyahArp; 04-21-2018 at 03:16 PM.

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    God forbid anyone enjoy content in this game?
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    I like eureka, it scratches my ff xi itch.

    Also it reads like you dont like mmorpgs
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    Ultimate was not designed to be a game saver and eureka wasn't either.
    They were designed to appease a part of the community not all of them, which is good regardless.

    Besides content is labeled as a failure if it doesn't get support, if content gets support it isn't a failure at all.
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    Kaiva my overall point is that the strategy of releasing niche experimental content is a failure because its not reaching enough people. People are defending ultimate, but even ultimate is a failure if that is the aim, because it's like all the other content. The content they release dries up, but the amount of people that does it and is satisfied by it is much less. Ultimate is just shocking for people to hear being trashed apparently; you can replace it with submarine missions if it bugs you, which is just as stupid content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    Kaiva my overall point is that the strategy of releasing niche experimental content is a failure because its not reaching enough people. People are defending ultimate, but even ultimate is a failure if that is the aim, because it's like all the other content. The content they release dries up, but the amount of people that does it and is satisfied by it is much less. Ultimate is just shocking for people to hear being trashed apparently; you can replace it with submarine missions if it bugs you, which is just as stupid content.
    Since you hate everything, maybe it's time to go play another game. There's lots of them out there.
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    Your overall point was fine, except the comments about Ultimate because it makes absolutely no sense. It's not supposed to reach everyone. It's not meant for me, it's not meant for a lot of players on the forum, it's definitely not meant for you. Again, as has been stated not only by myself and many other forum posters, but also on record by the devs themselves, this is only for elite players. After they clear it, they move on, as they are supposed to do. I have no idea how you keep trying to draw a parallel to other, more important issues plaguing FFXIV. Quit it. The argument you leo making about Ultimate makes no sense.
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