Thread: New Loot System for Raids from 4.3 on

The only problem that I have with this change is: (I feel like) tank gear drop rate is so low. Since tanks can't roll need anymore it will be so much pain just to get a piece of gear.

Is that the case?, I mean the drop rate. Does anyone has any numbers? Or it's just my feeling

I probably won't run the 24 man more than once a week now and greed on every drop just to increase my chance of actually getting lot. There is not really not that much of an incentive anymore to do multiple runs, when I could just go Eureka and get exactly what gear I want. It was already hard enough to get specific gear before due to rng and party composition. This change will make it harder when you have to compete against 7 people on top of rng for every drop. Everyone's odds just increased to 1/8 chance for a drop compared to the max of 1/4, if all dps were the same class.

Originally Posted by RukiaFae

I probably won't run the 24 man more than once a week now and greed on every drop just to increase my chance of actually getting lot. There is not really not that much of an incentive anymore to do multiple runs, when I could just go Eureka and get exactly what gear I want. It was already hard enough to get specific gear before due to rng and party composition. This change will make it harder when you have to compete against 7 people on top of rng for every drop. Everyone's odds just increased to 1/8 chance for a drop compared to the max of 1/4, if all dps were the same class.

I dont know why this bugs me as much as it does. You arent considering that the new 24 man will have a weekly loot lockout. Dont just roll greed for everything that drops if you cant use it(not only does it block you from maybe getting something you could use, you also wont be able to turn them in for seals for at least 2 patches so theyll literally just be in the way). You wont be competing with 7 other people for every drop. If nothing else, then whichever two people win the loot from the first boss wont be able to roll on the stuff from the 2nd or later bosses. Also, the 1-2-5 format allowed for 5 DPS in a party to share a set of gear and potentially have to compete with each other(and ive been DF'd into 5 caster parties before so it isnt unheard of) - so not just 4.

Most of the gear looks like crap, so enjoy competing with everyone ever for the melee DPS sets as it's literally the only one to not look right terrible.

Also the change affects all alliance raids, so good luck trying to get that sick glam from Weeping City or wherever.

I'm personally happy, I'll be able to go with wathever the job I feel like playing / is needed and still get to roll on the gear I want.

I mean, beside tank, no one had any exclusivity. As a healer I always had one person fighting for it, as a BLM it would range from no competition to 3 other people to roll against. I really don't see how the new system will change that.

The only difference is that you won't know who "wants" the same item as you do.

But technically, it is the same, you could end up in a group with no one wanting your piece of gear (so you'll get it if it drops) or you might as well have 7 people wanting your item.

But the odds are that youll most likely always fight against 1 or 2 person.

Anyway, I prefer this system over the current one. Perhaps well see less people who can't play their job with this change

Originally Posted by Sylvain

Perhaps well see less people who can't play their job with this change

I remember when I was optimistic.

This is why I said perhaps xD

Well, for new raid is not so bad because there is a weekly lockout to help. However, for the older raid.... everyone just greed the hell out of every piece for some extra GC seal (me included). So goodluck getting gear for glamoure.

Currently on old raids i greed every piece, this is true(even those for my class - the raids have all been around long enough that ive gathered any glamours i personally care for). But if someone asks for something, i gladly pass. And i know if i really want something i can run with friends who would be willing to pass something to me. I may not be able to fill a whole alliance to force a wind-up scattach, but i could certainly cobble a group together for the Good Looking Shoes of Coolness if i felt the need.