How to maintain aggro off Grit in savages?

[Izsha]

If you do nothing else, get your OT to voke shirk you. That is the largest source of enmity you can get. The rest is very much all or nothing. If the Drg uses elusive but the Sam doesn't use diversion, it doesn't matter that half the party cut their enmity if 1-2 didn't, you still have to stay ahead of the people that didn't. So in a PUG you cant 'make' the entire party work together, but if you can only get 1, get the OT to voke>shirk you throughout the fight. You cant make everyone cut their enmity down, but you can massively increase your own via circle shirks and it only requires 1 person, and that person should have more appreciation for enmity.

[whiskeybravo]

Hey guys, thanks for multiple responses.
Yes i realize other classes have enmity transfer skill but im not really sure if they use it, most likely they use it though. But sometimes some SAM also took my aggro in uncanny situation.
I can't really explain to them sometimes because im PUGing, some understand english some are barely. In this case i mostly tank the blame.
One time also because they keep stealing my aggro, i put on my Grit all the time and blamed for dps. I explain to them why i put it on but they cant understand me and keep blabbering about DPS number parser.
This situation im in really makes me uncomfortable.

So based on this, if i lose the aggro, its not my mistake is it?

Since you mention it, yea - if you aren't doing enough DPS it will be harder to maintain aggro regardless of whether you have Grit on or off. Enmity scales with damage so it's important in this regard. If you are going to turn off Grit then you need to have higher damage to compensate for lack of extra enmity generation - on top of help from your party. Keep an eye on threat meters and call out when it gets too close, people need to use their aggro dumps and/or have your co-tank provoke/shirk.

[Rinion]

circle shirks

Sorry, I don't tank often. What is a circle shirk? =)

[Chrono_Rising]

Circle shirk: Current OT provokes, current MT shirks. Now the prior MT provokes, and prior OT shirks. At the end you still have the original MT but with 56% more enmity.

[347SPECTRE]

Circle shirk: Current OT provokes, current MT shirks. Now the prior MT provokes, and prior OT shirks. At the end you still have the original MT but with 56% more enmity.

They should really come up with a less innuendo-y name for it.

[Izsha]

Sorry, I don't tank often. What is a circle shirk? =)

Circle shirk: Current OT provokes, current MT shirks. Now the prior MT provokes, and prior OT shirks. At the end you still have the original MT but with 56% more enmity.

^ Beat me to it. Just leveraging both tanks shirks to jack up enmity to really obscene levels.

[DBelmont]

Tanks have shirk which gives 25% of their enmity to you, they should be using this in combination with provoke to give you a large enmity boost while keeping theirs down.

I really love Shirk. However, I hate it when the other tank either ignores it or refuses to use it at all. Came back in the game a month ago or something and still find tanks in high end content that have no idea how to Shirk.

[Rinion]

Circle shirk: Current OT provokes, current MT shirks. Now the prior MT provokes, and prior OT shirks. At the end you still have the original MT but with 56% more enmity.

^ Beat me to it. Just leveraging both tanks shirks to jack up enmity to really obscene levels.

Thanks for the info guys ^.^

[aqskerorokero]

If you want to rely only on yourself, stay in grit.

[Capn_Goggles]

Tanking in DPS stance depends less on your skill as a tank and much much more on everyone else's ability to manage their enmity. When there's some degree of coordination, it's really easy since most DPS and all healers have access to really good and straightforward enmity management, but the problem comes when you're dealing with PUGS who have never heard of things like Manashift, Goad, Shirk, Diversion, or Lucid Dreaming.

So to answer your question: How to tank in DPS stance? Tell everyone to stop being stupid and use their enmity management, otherwise it's really not possible.