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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    yeah players have no say in wether or not your a bot, they dont need reasons to report you

    but a bot is a player who is automated in the end, playing while afk(not at computer or having a control do it for them etc etc)
    The part where I wanted you to start! "...a bot is a player who is automated...", wich means usage of third party tools, also know has software! Wich leads to the important part of me saying "...to read Sherman Antitrust Act (Sherman Act,[1] July 2, 1890, ch. 647, 26 Stat. 209, 15 U.S.C. §§ 1–7) [USA] or Article 101 of the Treaty [EU] and Article 102 of the Treaty [EU]. To understand why there is no definition of terms regarding botting or automation software. And a bit of information for consumers rights." Regarding that a turbo controller or personalized keyboards are in fact HARDWARE. And the fact that FFXIV is playable by PC, for now, and then playable by PS3, didn't occur to you and problably everyone else that posted, are reading, will post or even moderators. That after you read all those laws you and problably everyone else with some interpretation knowledge you will notice parts on the terms that mislead to assumptions in the SE policy of User Agreement, I believe that someone already posted a small part of it in this thread. But the point is a companie that makes, lets say, a personalized keyboard for multyple player role playing game, "unknow person" buy it, after play a few hours gets a GM /tell (GM: you have been banned for using HARDWARE considered to be a third party tool! If you have any objections please direct your concerns in a form to "impossible to acess web page/SE offices address in foreign country". thank you and have a nice day.) "unknow person" ( HUH!? but i just bought this keyboard a few hours ago!) " goes to the shop reclaims the money for the product in a form discriminating the reason and the events that lead him to reclaim the money from purchase. The company that manufactured the personalized keyboard gets the letter, and checks the name of the game on wich made him give up on their own product, what you guys think that will happen? They put them in a blist ( wich will put FFXIV in a special list in the market ), or go on a lawsuit because of these babies: (Sherman Antitrust Act (Sherman Act,[1] July 2, 1890, ch. 647, 26 Stat. 209, 15 U.S.C. §§ 1–7) [USA] or Article 101 of the Treaty [EU] and Article 102 of the Treaty [EU])

    And yes this is all assumptions, just like you all people do in these forums without talking about serious matters. But they all are still a fact! SE can't, yes, it can't put on the policy terms of user agreement the non use of specific HARDWARE, like turbo controllers or personalized keyboards, because they will meet lawsuits from hardware companies all over the world that sees they products been rejected with those same policy terms of user agreement from SE.

    Note: if it is still hard to understand all those, even with that small assumption theatre, go google and look for examples of major lawsuits based on Sherman Act, Article 101 and 102 of the Treaty.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    watching tv isnt one of these things, but using it as an excuse to not respond to ANYTHING AT ALL is unfortunately not a good reason if you get banned for it, they wont accept that obviously


    and i use the watching tv thing as an example cuz we all do it in some form or another, hell you can do it while fighting, gathering, anything, you dont need a turbo control, or to even be crafting to watch tv on the side
    I'm gonna repeat myself again (sarcasm).

    Note: It's obvious that watching tv is an excuse but it's not plausable to GM's because they do research before banning anyone, wich leads to mass reports, observation, intervencion and conclusion. Those steps are the path of a GM before taking any action against a "player".
    If you are not paying attention to the game, its because you are not enjoying it. The development team will be offended and heart breaked. And I say this without being sarcastic in any kind of way, I say it in a form of comprehension of their hard work for making this game nad trying to make it enjoyable the most possible way.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    in the end though players have no say in who gets banned, and in determining who is a bot or not(besides maybe reporting people, but reporting does not mean they are actualy bots, the player doesnt get to decide that, and this fact is lost on alot of people)
    the people you will care about messaging you are actual GMs, and you will know who they are, they wont hide it from you, and as i said, im sure youll respond to them

    also how the hell am i lookin for witches lol, i dont think you understand my stance on all this
    im against witch hunts, but facts are facts

    They have no say, but they mindless point their fingers randomly. That's why I call this, a mindless repetition thread and a witch hunt!


    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    if you cant respond to a gm cuz you arent paying attention, you obviously are botting
    if you are just ignoring people cuz you dont want to respond to them, all the more power to you(you have the ability to respond to GMs still in this case, since they are the only ones you need to respond to if contacted)
    But off course, and I wouldn't know the procedures mentioned above without asking them.



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    If you asked how FFXIV development team should treat crafting. I would say... remove the exp reward or any type of form of leveling from DoH, and you wont be able to make any type of recipe without doing repeated quests to gain those same recipes in a lower % gain. and make specific npc's or just one in each city for each grade of I - II - III - IV - V recipes, in wich grade consists the same recipes used from 0-10 (I) and so on until 40-50 (V). In the case of HQ/NQ items usage or crafted, they should keep the same last window that is used to perform an HQ item with the required stamina points and quality of materials.

    Wouldn't that solve the issue?
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    Last edited by DardGhalawad; 02-01-2012 at 02:51 PM. Reason: repeated miss spells, separation bar went array <.<;