turbo controllers the new bot crafting?

[slipmac]

SE should make an automated system.
double or even tripple the exp needed to level.
that way its a really big gil sink and the botters get there way.
no one wants to sit and press enter all day.
it is not fun. you dont see bots for dow & dom do you? no because its fun.

this might not be the perfect way but i dont see any other helpful post.

[Jashynvald]

Frankly, the use of turbo-controllers is a symptom of a problem, not the problem itself. Banning the use of turbo-controllers and not addressing what drove players to use them in crafting has the same effect of taking a weed-whacker to dandelions but leaving the roots alone for them to simply grow back again.

Draconian solutions like a consistent, outside check for player consciousness will only serve to treat them like a criminal to begin with (also will serve to piss them off) and win no new subscribers. As well, this will just poise another surmountable obstacle to the more sophisticated bots that do the real damage.

What needs to be done is to address the amount of grind required per lvl for DoH professions, put more power into the skills we learn to provide incentive to the players to be used (as it should significantly shorten crafting times), reduce the exp gained from crafts below the DoH's current level at the same rate (if not more) than what is gained from crafting above their lvl, place more situations that can happen during a synth on top of what's already in play (that said more powerful/new abilities could address), and to move away from RNG being the centerpiece in the process of crafting.

Those are my two cents on this issue. The players aren't going to change, SE needs to change the way they approach DoH or this cat-and-mouse game can only continue.

[Kyra]

They need to add an Auto captcha that pops up at the begining of every synth. You have 10 seconds to enter it correcty or you get dc from the server and banned for 3 hours.

[Yves]

Honestly, most people who I know that bot are people that either:

a)out of stuff to do in the game but want to be in the game still
b)doing it because you kind of need crafting jobs
c)botting because the same EXP curve of a DoW/M is absurd for a DoH/L where you gain way less per attempt
d)all of the above

Look, I have talked with people who bot and most of them are doing it for all of those reasons. If they lower the curve of EXP I would expect most botters to stop. Your average player is not botting for profit, rather to level to counteract absurd prices.

[Dakin]

I honestly believe, in my heart of hearts, that Yoshi-P would be pro turbo crafting (even while unattended).

I have to front the gil cost for materials and shards, or the time cost for materials and shards. Either way, why do people think that unattended crafting hurts their gaming experience? I guess it's a sense of entitlement that basically boils down to: "I can devote excessive hours each day to this game, and I can sit here watching TV/movies/chatting/etc while pressing enter or using my turbo button while I craft. Everybody else should have to do that to".

Turbo crafting, even while unattended, should not be a crime.

[TheVedis]

I honestly believe, in my heart of hearts, that Yoshi-P would be pro turbo crafting (even while unattended).

I have to front the gil cost for materials and shards, or the time cost for materials and shards. Either way, why do people think that unattended crafting hurts their gaming experience? I guess it's a sense of entitlement that basically boils down to: "I can devote excessive hours each day to this game, and I can sit here watching TV/movies/chatting/etc while pressing enter or using my turbo button while I craft. Everybody else should have to do that to".

Turbo crafting, even while unattended, should not be a crime.

a control playing the game for you while afk is botting, period, you cant defend it in any way shape or form
its against the terms of service

and thats all that matters

so yes
IT SHOULD BE, AND IS, A CRIME

[Colino]

Btw, are you really suggesting that you can stand to legitimately play the crafting system over and over, but adding one extra button press to the left on every synth is a "massive pain in the ass" ?

I am, that's precisely why they changed the default button in the first place.

Listen, the system is tedious and boring, therefore there will ALWAYS be people who abuse it. It could be bots, or turbo controllers or underage slavery, it doesn't matter how, someone will abuse it.

So with that in mind, you might as well make it easier for the idiots like me who bother to at least sit next to a laptop and keep pressing Enter.

[SirOleas]

>_> Botany is a crime?

*hehehehehee*

[Risx]

Just for the sake of discussion I guess. What if you play another game while running a turbo controller. Where's the line drawn between "afk" (actually being away from your computer) and still being at your computer but doing other stuff?

Edit:

Just to add: The fact that crafting takes no thought other than pressing 1 button over and over... I mean, really can anyone really be mad at people taking advantage over something like that? I honestly don't think I can blame anyone. Sure, the idea is frustrating and can inspire rage but I mean really. It requires not though or skill to craft, there's nothing you learn while leveling that'll help you once you're 50.

[Searious]

They need to add an Auto captcha that pops up at the begining of every synth. You have 10 seconds to enter it correcty or you get dc from the server and banned for 3 hours.

That sounds extremely tedious. Also given the about of times I mistype captcha with them being difficult to read sometimes I'd be getting 3 hour band quite often. That would probably be annoying enough for me to quit the game.