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  1. #21
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    Fiosha_Maureiba's Avatar
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    Fiofel Zalalafell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Yeah I craft in the market wards alot so I can transfere items around between myself and retainers. I often get tells like "hello" and "are you there". I reply "hi, how can I help you" ...I get no reply, I ask again what they needed and I get "oh, sorry, was a mistype". Its amazing how everyone has the nerve to assume people are botting, because they areon a crafting rush, but the do not have the balls to say, "oh nothing, just seeing if you were there. Bunch of spinless morons, they seriously expect me to believe they mistyped my entire name when sending a tell.
    Crazy people that message you then say mistype!
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  2. #22
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    Zetsumei Tsunarashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    Yeah so the people who program and sell these bots have to change one line of code whereas everyone who crafts legitimately has to deal with that massive pain in the ass.
    At least you would be able to more easily distinguish between people who are actually using a bot, and someone who is just taking advantage of a badly designed UI element because they don't want to do something boring and tedious for hours and hours.

    Hate the game, not the player.

    Btw, are you really suggesting that you can stand to legitimately play the crafting system over and over, but adding one extra button press to the left on every synth is a "massive pain in the ass" ?
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    Last edited by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi; 01-30-2012 at 08:50 AM.

  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackomegaKingofwaffles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    It is botting if you are afk with turbo.
    +1

    I left an ls today because they had people who botted with turbo controllers all night. I brought it up that they were doing this and the rest of the ls said "Oh it's fine it's a turbo controller" they also said "Do it in a different place next time so the gm's don't catch you." It's funny because the ls leader just ousted a member the day prior for botting but he didn't have a problem with those 3 members doing it because SE didn't state that it was against the TOS.
    (1)
    "Programming today is a race between Software Engineers striving to produce bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiote. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rich Cook


  4. #24
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    Indira Cliodhna
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    nothing wrong with a turbo controller
    other games have a create all button then it stop when you run out of supplys, i'd rather have that
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by indira View Post
    nothing wrong with a turbo controller
    other games have a create all button then it stop when you run out of supplys, i'd rather have that
    How is there nothing wrong with a turbo controller when players are using them to afk craft all night or while they're at work?
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    "Programming today is a race between Software Engineers striving to produce bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiote. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rich Cook


  6. #26
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    panzertroll's Avatar
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    Irie Lys
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    S-E Should add random QTE in the craft. If you click at the right time on the good key, you have a success for your normal synthesis / fast / audacious, if you miss QTE, the synthesis explode

    XD
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  7. #27
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    Fated Erskine
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    SE created the issue, it's not hard for them to stop it if they want to.
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  8. 01-30-2012 11:15 AM
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    Sorry to hear that Chibi, you'll be missed.

  9. #28
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    Halvaard_Vidan's Avatar
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    Halvaard Vidan
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    SE could run a simple script that would check on players who craft non stop for more that X amount of time...

  10. #29
    Player Sidious's Avatar
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    Hexxus Lis
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    I don't see a problem with using a turbo controller. Even if it *could* maybe be construed as botting (my personal opinion is that it isn't), it isn't the type of botting that is as harmful as the RMT NM bots back in the old days of FFXI...
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  11. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Yeah I craft in the market wards alot so I can transfere items around between myself and retainers. I often get tells like "hello" and "are you there". I reply "hi, how can I help you" ...I get no reply, I ask again what they needed and I get "oh, sorry, was a mistype". Its amazing how everyone has the nerve to assume people are botting, because they areon a crafting rush, but the do not have the balls to say, "oh nothing, just seeing if you were there. Bunch of spinless morons, they seriously expect me to believe they mistyped my entire name when sending a tell.
    people used to talk to me too to see if i was there when i was doing my leveling grinds, they mostly know me now so they dont bother, i think they may be scared of my "fabulous" responses lol


    but in the end, turbo control = legal
    turbo control while afk(not in front of computer in any shape or form, if you are in the kitchen with the control, you are botting!) is illegal


    the way of telling the difference is as easy as a gm contact


    fyi, against a script checking people who craft a long time, i tend to sit in crafting position afk while at work sometimes(idle of course, literaly just too lazy to hit cancel to stand up) and itd probly check people like me too even if we arent doing anything

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