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  1. #1
    Player
    Yves's Avatar
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    Bubble Yum
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    Sargatanas
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Honestly, most people who I know that bot are people that either:

    a)out of stuff to do in the game but want to be in the game still
    b)doing it because you kind of need crafting jobs
    c)botting because the same EXP curve of a DoW/M is absurd for a DoH/L where you gain way less per attempt
    d)all of the above

    Look, I have talked with people who bot and most of them are doing it for all of those reasons. If they lower the curve of EXP I would expect most botters to stop. Your average player is not botting for profit, rather to level to counteract absurd prices.
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    Dakin Reyes
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I honestly believe, in my heart of hearts, that Yoshi-P would be pro turbo crafting (even while unattended).

    I have to front the gil cost for materials and shards, or the time cost for materials and shards. Either way, why do people think that unattended crafting hurts their gaming experience? I guess it's a sense of entitlement that basically boils down to: "I can devote excessive hours each day to this game, and I can sit here watching TV/movies/chatting/etc while pressing enter or using my turbo button while I craft. Everybody else should have to do that to".

    Turbo crafting, even while unattended, should not be a crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakin View Post
    I honestly believe, in my heart of hearts, that Yoshi-P would be pro turbo crafting (even while unattended).

    I have to front the gil cost for materials and shards, or the time cost for materials and shards. Either way, why do people think that unattended crafting hurts their gaming experience? I guess it's a sense of entitlement that basically boils down to: "I can devote excessive hours each day to this game, and I can sit here watching TV/movies/chatting/etc while pressing enter or using my turbo button while I craft. Everybody else should have to do that to".

    Turbo crafting, even while unattended, should not be a crime.
    a control playing the game for you while afk is botting, period, you cant defend it in any way shape or form
    its against the terms of service

    and thats all that matters

    so yes
    IT SHOULD BE, AND IS, A CRIME

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    SirOleas's Avatar
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    Oleas Aiedail
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    Sargatanas
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    Lancer Lv 60
    >_> Botany is a crime?

    *hehehehehee*
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    Risx Dayo
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    Just for the sake of discussion I guess. What if you play another game while running a turbo controller. Where's the line drawn between "afk" (actually being away from your computer) and still being at your computer but doing other stuff?

    Edit:

    Just to add: The fact that crafting takes no thought other than pressing 1 button over and over... I mean, really can anyone really be mad at people taking advantage over something like that? I honestly don't think I can blame anyone. Sure, the idea is frustrating and can inspire rage but I mean really. It requires not though or skill to craft, there's nothing you learn while leveling that'll help you once you're 50.
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    Last edited by Risx; 01-30-2012 at 06:52 PM.

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    Walter Ramuh
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    wait so if i got an original 360 controller that has no turbo function but put on the button the gum i was chewing at morning cause i like to go on synthesis stance and then just leave the button tapping for overheating reasons is it boting ? lolol if they dont agree/want it they will chance the interface, /end of arguing .
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    To prevent 'botting' they just need to make it so the way to craft isnt simply 'press enter repeatedly', standard synthesis should move around in the list, meaning a bot couldn't predict where it is in the list, that way even if people botted, they'd loose mats and money, and it wouldn't be beneficial.
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    Slip Mac
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 50
    lets pretend im yoshi p for a min
    how about a factory based crafting system
    its far fetched but bear with me

    lets say you need a party for your miner u and your friends have to fill a cart or chocobo carriage with ore and stones to level up. this would be the only way to exp miner with a party. the amount of exp you get would be on how fast you could fill the carts. same with bot and fishing. you could also add a farming class.

    the driver
    a driver class would transport the carriage to and from the party to the factory. fly air ships and transport players from city to city at level 1 you get a chocobo 5 your goobbue 10 a chocobo carriage and so on to magiteck armor and grand co owned airships.

    once the driver class reaches the factory then you would need a party on bsm one working the bellows one working the iron and one working the hammer. all 3 would get bsm exp. that way no one could bot.

    when you reach say level 10 bsm then your awarded a few recipes that you can make on your own for lil or no exp
    same with mining once you worked for so long you earn mining abilities that u can use when you mine for personal use for lil or no exp

    ta-dah i solved the botting issue
    your welcome!

    dosent have to be done this way my point is if you make it party based to exp dol and doh no one could bot. hell make carpenters build houses or what ever or cul make food to feed an army.

    content + fun = win

    i thought when i voted for drastic changes to the game it would of been more then just dow dom. i dont count making less mats to craft an item a drastic change.

    i just thought of an automated system for solo craft and party based crafting and dol for more exp then solo. man SE needs to send me a check lol
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    Last edited by slipmac; 01-31-2012 at 01:53 AM.

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    Captcha's in MMOs I play work fine and only intrude on you if you're doing suspicious activiity and they're generally only 3-4 numbers you have to type within 30 seconds or your action is cancelled.

    It's not a system that should be in common place but it's not like captchas that throw in random word + random arabic script and expect you to type it lol.
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    Nyris Reach
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    Jenova
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Captcha's in MMOs I play work fine and only intrude on you if you're doing suspicious activiity and they're generally only 3-4 numbers you have to type within 30 seconds or your action is cancelled.

    It's not a system that should be in common place but it's not like captchas that throw in random word + random arabic script and expect you to type it lol.
    Any reason for me to touch my keyboard is worst idea ever.... I barely talk to people if they aren't in voice chat with me for that same reason... Death to the keyboard
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