Request: More challanging / difficult content. PLEASE

[Velhart]

Getting off topic. I'm not talking about the breadth of current content or the rewards even. You post "REAL content like moogle, ifrit etc etc" and i'm left here wondering really, what IS that etc etc? what fills this citation? Either way its not about that. Anyone that says the current 'content' under any definition is difficult is simply having difficulty with finding the opportunities to beat it. NOT beating it. It is my firm belief that if a Primal battle [for example, Moogle] can be released and completed across most servers within 24 hours of the patch, that it is not difficult content. The HARD part is finding a group to do it often enough, and when you do get one life becomes simple. If you fail, you just get up, and try again. And again, and again. Strategies were released within days for Moogle and a couple of weeks later suddenly everyone stops playing again.

Difficult content is engaging, thought-invoking, strategic... It needs to be worthwhile. Whipping up a party for a quick few Primal kills and then going back to crafting or gathering is none of these.

Look back to FFXI - there were whole Linkshells dedicated to different elements of play. Sea LS, Sky LS, HNM LS; while i'm verging on discussing breadth of content here rather then difficulty, each of these examples from the past were event based, they were challenging, they were time sinks, and totally enjoyable. This game is begging for more depth, and more challenging content. What's the point of introducing new NMs [around Turningleaf] and then making it possible for any 4 random people off the street able to defeat them. And then nerfing the stone-aquisition... There is no achievement in owning a Moogle weapon now because opening the chest just means you've farmed a few spriggans and got lucky.

Mhm. Now do take note, besides BCNM's, all of FFXI's content revolved around accomplishing something in a certain area before engaging the enemy. Dynamis was hard and took a lot of work to get to the last boss. So the idea of accomplishing it in 24 hours was nearly non-existant. It took people quite a while to figure out the best way to approach Dynamis. Even after years people still had it challenging, even when it was broken down into a science. I want FFXIV's content engaging like this. The problem with primals are that you have only a 5 minute window to wait to figure out how it works. If you had access to Dynamis Lord every 5 minutes, I am sure you could find a way to take him down within a day.

Overall, we are getting BCNM like fights in FFXIV, and we need content that helps make an event stretch out.

[Elexia]

Mhm. Now do take note, besides BCNM's, all of FFXI's content revolved around accomplishing something in a certain area before engaging the enemy. Dynamis was hard and took a lot of work to get to the last boss. So the idea of accomplishing it in 24 hours was nearly non-existant. It took people quite a while to figure out the best way to approach Dynamis. Even after years people still had it challenging, even when it was broken down into a science. I want FFXIV's content engaging like this. The problem with primals are that you have only a 5 minute window to wait to figure out how it works. If you had access to Dynamis Lord every 5 minutes, I am sure you could find a way to take him down within a day.

Overall, we are getting BCNM like fights in FFXIV, and we need content that helps make an event stretch out.

Even at 99 cap people are having problems taking down Arch Dynamis Lord. (Arch (boss) in Neo-Dynamis are a lot harder and not a zerg fest so yeah lol.) That was the good thing about it, because it actually made people think..in XIV? Content isn't varied enough yet to really promote that kind of strategic thinking, especially because people rather class stack than actually try and think of ways to do certain battles as a varied setup, look at the post about Puglist style, while that's still stacking basically, it at least tried something different.

They have to keep this game casual or people like Isaveron will cry because it'll be deemed a "time sink" if you can't do it in one sitting.