Just say no

[Vhailor]

+1 I think the issues with whales in general and gachas being so successful is that there is people making tons of money and just want to pay w/e for something they enjoy. There be people loging on this game even if it was 1000 EUR a month.

Gaming went from a new art to how to exploit people for more money, it is a real shame.

It's one of the reasons I'm so thankful for Steam, and the tremendous platform it's given to indie developers of all stripes. Sure, a lot of the games have rough edges, but the amount of creativity contained in the random games you can find buried in Steam is tremendous, and gives me hope for the future of gaming as a hobby.

[Remedi]

It's one of the reasons I'm so thankful for Steam, and the tremendous platform it's given to indie developers of all stripes. Sure, a lot of the games have rough edges, but the amount of creativity contained in the random games you can find buried in Steam is tremendous, and gives me hope for the future of gaming as a hobby.

Not really wanting to sound pessimistic, but steam is notorious for beign actually a dumpster for asset flippers by now for their massive lack of quality control

[DarthRok]

I won’t be using the app. It’s just too far. I agree, don’t use it. Vote with your wallet and make this fail.

[MrPresident]

I admire your intent, but it won't work. We all said it over fantasias, we all said it when Sleipnir was ripped out of Urth's Fount so they could shove it in the cash shop, we said it over retainers. If everyone stuck together we could push back, but they won't. People who have the expendable income to waste on this stuff can and will, like always. We hurtled down this slippery slope a long time ago unfortunately.

[Souljacker]

If the playerbase didn't push back on retainers, we won't push back on this.

I loathe what developers have become. And yes, I blame the developers. It's not all some sinister guy at the top, it's every single person in the chain who goes out of their way to somehow produce less content for the maximum amount of money.

[Sakuraluna]

I’ve waited so long for this app but I absolutely won’t download it. I won’t touch the thing. I pay a sub to play an mmo in a world where most mmo’s are free, for the benefit of being able to avoid this ridiculousness.

[AppleJinx]

Yeah we really need to say something now instead of hand waving it since this is how they get ya. This is almost exactly like the boiling frog situation where a frog will immediately jump out if you throw it into boiling water but if you put it in cold water then gradually turn up the heat they will not perceive the danger then eventually be cooked to death.

[Krokov]

Just say no......to drugs?

[Zephanoa]

I think there is a lot of preliminary negativity based on too few details to be honest. I am super excited for the app and don't see the negativity. There is nothing really pay to win about it. There isn't really anything that I would consider greatly disrupting about the application so far. I am going to subscribe and probably tell other people to do it too. It's a good value from what I see is provided.

[Souljacker]

I think there is a lot of preliminary negativity based on too few details to be honest. I am super excited for the app and don't see the negativity. There is nothing really pay to win about it. There isn't really anything that I would consider greatly disrupting about the application so far. I am going to subscribe and probably tell other people to do it too. It's a good value from what I see is provided.

Is this your first mmo? It sounds like it, if you think they are providing good 'value' with what they have announced.