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  1. #11
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    Wintersandman's Avatar
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    Secure is missing the high/fever component.
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    Sendo Takeshi
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    They're gonna need a whole lot more than a map rotation to get me playing pvp again. Tired of bots, afkers, players who don't try because "it's pvp lol." just tired of it all.
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    Altria Pendragons
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendoTakeshi View Post
    They're gonna need a whole lot more than a map rotation to get me playing pvp again. Tired of bots, afkers, players who don't try because "it's pvp lol." just tired of it all.
    Interesting....
    You are missing a lot of actions on Primal then.
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    Xevia Vanothy
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintersandman View Post
    Secure is missing the high/fever component.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    I think they are gonna put battle high/killing streak system into it.
    One thing is certain. They will make Secure more like the other maps. They will reduce the time limit and generally speed up the matches.

    The Battle High/Fever buff is most likely to be added just because it's the only map that doesn't have it.
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    Last edited by OskarXCI; 05-03-2018 at 05:50 AM.

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    Camel Dan
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    Well wouldn't it make more sense to bring the slaughter mode back, which had battle highs if I remember correctly
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  6. #16
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    Aleister Noir
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    Quote Originally Posted by OskarXCI View Post
    The Battle High/Fever buff is most likely to be added just because it's the only map that doesn't have it.
    Its that way because the map uses shared LB (high/fever is linked to adrenaline/personal lb). They made it that way because they didnt want to see teams of 8 melee mass limit breaking the big node when it spawns. Not saying I agree with it. Personally I think its obnoxious because inevitably someone who doesn't know/doesn't listen/doesn't care wastes your 2 bars before the node is up. Not to mention having a decaying limit break bar (yes, it decays when nobody is in combat) doesn't agree with the frontlines meta "let them fight lulz" and GLHF convincing anyone that mantra is incorrect.

    Whatever though, lol at this point ill be happy if the rotating maps arent filled with bots. Hopefully they stick to shatter /knock on wood.
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  7. #17
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    Gracidea Blossom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enlial View Post
    Its that way because the map uses shared LB (high/fever is linked to adrenaline/personal lb).
    Actually, you do have a personal LB in Secure and have since they adjusted it for 4.0... Battle High/Fever have just been absent for whatever reason. Maybe the adrenaline accumulation increase you get from it was considered too powerful for that mode, because of the large drone, like you said, with the potential for melee LB abuse on it.

    I agree, though, I'll be happy to play Secure and Seal Rock if for no other reason than those modes being less bot-friendly!
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graci View Post
    Actually, you do have a personal LB in Secure and have since they adjusted it for 4.0... Battle High/Fever have just been absent for whatever reason.
    Oh cool. lol that's news to me. Thats a good change, too bad it never pops
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  9. #19
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    Xevia Vanothy
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graci View Post
    Maybe the adrenaline accumulation increase you get from it was considered too powerful for that mode, because of the large drone, like you said, with the potential for melee LB abuse on it.
    It would be pretty unbalanced if the current Secure had the Battle High/Fever mechanic. The point accumulation from bases are so low that people would ignore them altogether. All three teams would be at the center the whole match and try to build as many Battle High/Fever buffs as possible in order to dominate the DPS race on the big node. Again, unlike the ice in Shatter, you get all or nothing. It would be bad for both variants but even worse for 24-man. The big node has a bigger impact in 24-man than 72-man.

    They could balance this by doing what I wrote in post #9 and making so that you lose points if you die, including bigger point loss if you had the Battle High/Fever buff.
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    Masamune
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    Question I have is... why doesn't Feast have Battle High instead of Light/Heavy medals? O.o
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