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    Gath and his concern for lack of LS competition.

    Gath has been watching a lot of Linkshells since the beginning of the game and up to the current day.

    Gath noticed that shells break up often because a couple "trusted" members decided to go behind their LS's back and form their own LS. Every time they claim "We will make an LS greater than all the other ones under *insert name here* rule and guidance. Gath has noticed when people, or more so a clique does this, they destroy the shell they claimed to have a "relationship" to begin with. Gath has seen many shells break because of this mentality and eventually the same clique of people end up breaking their pearl due to an established trust and greed that boils between those fellow members that broke off to begin with.

    Gath also see that the number of shells that exist now are great in number. There are shells that have great members that have a sense of skill but they are spread so far apart due to all these small shells that they are not shining. People like this deserve to be with others that actually are very good MMO players in general, not just FFXIV players.

    Between the constant backstabbing and forming of cliques there is no actual "good" structure when it comes to Linkshells. Everybody has a multitude of shells to where there is outside influence to warp a persons mind to their side be it good or bad. It still leads the dissolving of shells that have a decent set of rules, morals, and understanding of "skill".

    When there is competition between shells an economy thrives because each shell is doing what they can be it economically or physically during the rise of NMs or whatever else there is need to have competition for. It helps keep strong ties together, and keeps a shell from dying off in the matter of months. Gath does agree, there are some very well established shells out there, but they are in a large minority. There is only one shell that really has establishment, but that is only because of their accomplishments from FFXI.

    I'm not talking about XI, I am talking about the game we are playing right now. Why can there not be a shell that can be spoken of because of what they do in this game and not another? Again, this falls down to the lack of implemented competition.

    The competition I talk about needs to have some bearing in it. It needs to be a long term goal as a large group, not just 8 people, it needs to have something that makes people dreadfully want it, it needs to have a sense of accomplishment when it kill, accomplished, or even worked on together as a shell. Be it items from things like sea, sky, Limbus, or even Dynamis (Gath only uses these as an example) It creates a large sense of competition between shells.

    One of the biggest things that showed who was the household names for shells on the servers were HNMs. I know a lot of people are against long spawn HNMs with low drop rates for the items, but it did create a large proportion of competition that keeps shells together for the most part. Shells did not last forever in the HNM world of XI, but, they did last a long times. Ranging from 8 months to 8 years. The competition kept shells and the friends they called themselves within together with a like goal. At first people do it for the items but it eventually grew into a bond that people cherished and eventually that greed would dissipate with the exception of a few really greedy people.

    Gath does not talk about himself in this manner, Gath talks about this because he watches as all these shells fall because people don't have a like goal due to there really being no goal in the game. Be it make HNM with long timers or limit the number of shells per person, there needs to be a sense of pride and competition with linkshells. Else you just have a sea of pearls that nobody even cares about.

    Gath hopes the future is filled with the firey passion of competition between multiple shells, be it good or bad. Gath may sound like a broken record but competition is a wonderful thing. Gath thinks that it will happen in the future with 2.0 but Gath is sick of say "In 2.0" Though I know it is hard for them to do now because of the crappy servers we are faced with now, but there needs to be something that helps keep people together. divided people are weak (Unless you're Gath) but united people can stand for something and accomplish great things, though there are really no great things to accomplish other than personal goals.

    With that Gath bids his farewell, Gath understand he will have his fans trying to derail Gath and his cause but Gath always has a mind for a brighter, rich filled future for all of the fans of FFXIV.

    REMEMBER THESE ARE JUST EXAMPLES! Gath is open to ideas, this is nothing set in stone in Gath's mind for something he thinks will be good.

    Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.
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    Last edited by Gath; 02-04-2012 at 05:18 AM.

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    Ogawa's Wodka has more % than Gath's Prosecco.

    ontopic edit: see you again in Pvp.
    i won't be able to move while casting tho.
    (thanks yoshi.)

    edit 2: cya on FF 17 ^^d
    you were somewhat amusing (sometimes).
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    Last edited by Phe; 02-03-2012 at 06:42 AM. Reason: gath's 1... whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phe View Post
    Ogawa's Wodka has more % than Gath's Prosecco.
    Friend, Gath does not drink wine, Gath drinks sparkling non-alcoholic grape juice. Therefore, that makes Gath a true man.

    Gath's 1 gil is worth more than your 1 gil.
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    remeber great gath that this game caters to smaller LS (8 man alliances) than the good ole 12 man alliance (or even the dynamis level people)
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    Walls of text written in third person shtick need not be read to reply in kind: gtfo.

    This game is PvE. If we need competition it should be in the form of direct PvP. Like the colosseum and Frintlines events they plan to add.

    No HNM claim wars as "content."
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    Last edited by Sephrick; 02-03-2012 at 06:25 AM.

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    Lol @ ls drama in a game with barely enough content with anything worth crying about, let alone backstabbing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanemakikaze View Post
    Lol @ ls drama in a game with barely enough content with anything worth crying about, let alone backstabbing.
    Gath's LS stole Ifrit from us last night.
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    oh wait...
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    I don't think competition is the way to bring people together. Goals, sure can. But I don't think goals should be confused with LS competition.
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    I like LS claim competition :/

    Oh yeah, forgot people don't like to actually try anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tempast View Post
    I like LS claim competition :/

    Oh yeah, forgot people don't like to actually try anymore.
    There was no challenge in claim competitions. You make it sound like there's some skill in mashing a provoke macro for 30 seconds every hour till the mob actually pops.

    It was boring.
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