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    Quote Originally Posted by Emstidor View Post
    I agree about the shortage of styles, but I imagine part of the difficulty is designing tank armor that's appropriately feminine without veering into "boob plate", a trope this game is often praised for avoiding.

    The Hellfire tanking set is the most feminine "tanky" armor design that comes to mind, and even that one caught a lot of flack for the giant exposed chest window.
    Similarly to how I feel about casting/healing gear options for men, I think we have enough full plate options in the game that SE can start making a few more boob hole plate sets. So long as they don't reverse course and only make bikini plate/boob window tank gear I think we can get a few more sets for the people who want them. I didn't like the Hellfire set because of the stupid looking window, so I glammed over it. I can do the same with more sets like that due to the variety of options that already exist.
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    I think concept art should show us both male and females.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emstidor View Post
    I agree about the shortage of styles, but I imagine part of the difficulty is designing tank armor that's appropriately feminine without veering into "boob plate", a trope this game is often praised for avoiding.

    The Hellfire tanking set is the most feminine "tanky" armor design that comes to mind, and even that one caught a lot of flack for the giant exposed chest window.
    I think the problem with that idea is that exposing tiddays is the only way to make heavy armor feminine. One of my fav tank glams is the i205 pvp top: its super sleek vs the usual bulky tank designs. SE decided to cut out a boob window for the female set. Its a shame cause the other alteration it has (females get a simple gold breastplate vs the male’s bulkier embellished black plate) would have been feminine enough :c
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  4. 04-15-2018 07:40 AM
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    Came up with a better reply and this one is no longer needed.

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    Does it matter though?
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    Stereotype helps sales. You've to successfully present your thing to a broad audience and stereotype helps making most of them to identify themselves. I'd say the stereotypes would be a problem if it was persistent throught inside the game's NPCs and quests as well, and it's not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fredco191 View Post
    Does it matter though?
    Muh diversity I guess.
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    Will dancer be displayed as a female when it's released? Most certainly.

    Will I play it regardless because I like healing? Totally

    Regardless of gender they always seem to stick in a few glamour sets that everyone can enjoy and I don't care how they display the job in the trailers or concept art because I'll play what I like.
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    *sigh*...2018
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hestzhyen View Post
    Similarly to how I feel about casting/healing gear options for men, I think we have enough full plate options in the game that SE can start making a few more boob hole plate sets. So long as they don't reverse course and only make bikini plate/boob window tank gear I think we can get a few more sets for the people who want them. I didn't like the Hellfire set because of the stupid looking window, so I glammed over it. I can do the same with more sets like that due to the variety of options that already exist.
    I am so happy that armors in this game are actual armors. Want an open cleavage?! Play a caster, alternatively lightly-armored DPS. I so hope that heavy armors WILL STAY being heavy armors, because all those "feminine" modifications make them look like impractical fashion garbage. I mean, why worry about the super-heavy plate all around, if the most important organ, the heart, is perfectly nekkid right there in front of you, with a big-ass hole to point yer sword through?! And breast shapes on armor end up with the same ridiculous notion. Plate armors shape is sleek outwardly because armor is NOT supposed to absorb attacks but push them to the side. Attacks just slide off towards less critical points or into thin air. Breast shapes do exactly the opposite, leading stray attacks that would cause little damage straight to the heart, making sure that even a random hit would be a potentially deadly strike.

    So yeah, I DO want them to stick with full-out heavy armor designs for male and female both. It's fine for stuff like chainplates, leather and similar armors that by nature absorb attacks instead of deflecting to look appropriately to who wears them. That's perfectly reasonable. But plate armor?! Hell no.
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    this isn't an important issue

    and yes I did lab this gamer gate
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    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    I am so happy that armors in this game are actual armors. Want an open cleavage?! Play a caster, alternatively lightly-armored DPS. I so hope that heavy armors WILL STAY being heavy armors, because all those "feminine" modifications make them look like impractical fashion garbage. I mean, why worry about the super-heavy plate all around, if the most important organ, the heart, is perfectly nekkid right there in front of you, with a big-ass hole to point yer sword through?! And breast shapes on armor end up with the same ridiculous notion. Plate armors shape is sleek outwardly because armor is NOT supposed to absorb attacks but push them to the side. Attacks just slide off towards less critical points or into thin air. Breast shapes do exactly the opposite, leading stray attacks that would cause little damage straight to the heart, making sure that even a random hit would be a potentially deadly strike.

    So yeah, I DO want them to stick with full-out heavy armor designs for male and female both. It's fine for stuff like chainplates, leather and similar armors that by nature absorb attacks instead of deflecting to look appropriately to who wears them. That's perfectly reasonable. But plate armor?! Hell no.
    If all we had were dumb fantasy bikini armor sets for women, I would totally be on-board with you. But as it stands right now the vast majority of sets available are practical heavy armor. So I don't mind them loosening the requirements to introduce some less practical designs for people who want that sort of thing. A few more boob holes, slim profiles, and light leather segments will not significantly deprive people of full-body plate options.
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