An Aspected Helios buff? Neither sect really needs this. Noct Helios already is extremely strong and Diu Helios is stronger than Medica II...


An Aspected Helios buff? Neither sect really needs this. Noct Helios already is extremely strong and Diu Helios is stronger than Medica II...


Diurnal Aspected Helios is actually weaker than Medica II.
Medica II = 200 initial + (50 x 10) ticks = 200 initial + 500 ticks = 700 total potency
Diurnal Aspected Helios = 200*1.05 initial + (40 x 10)*1.05 ticks = 210 initial + 420 ticks = 630 total potency
[edit] Edit for mathematical error on my end.
Medica II = 200 initial + (50 x 10) ticks = 200 initial + 500 ticks = 700 total potency
Diurnal Aspected Helios = 200*1.10 initial + (40 x 10)*1.10 ticks = 220 initial + 440 ticks = 660 total potency
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I do agree that Aspected Helios doesn't really need a buff.
Last edited by Ghishlain; 05-12-2018 at 12:25 AM.

Hey Ghishlain,Diurnal Aspected Helios is actually weaker than Medica II.
Medica II = 200 initial + (50 x 10) ticks = 200 initial + 500 ticks = 700 total potency
Diurnal Aspected Helios = 200*1.05 initial + (40 x 10)*1.05 ticks = 210 initial + 420 ticks = 630 total potency
I do agree that Aspected Helios doesn't really need a buff.
Its 10% more healing from Diurnal (and not only 5%.)
Aspected Helios (Diu.) = 200*1.10 initial + (40 x 10)*1.10 ticks = 220 initial + 440 ticks = 660 total potency
Last edited by Heilstos; 05-12-2018 at 12:25 AM.


You are correct. I was probably thinking of the 5% reduced cast speed that Diurnal used to have and slotted that in as healing potency randomly. It's still weaker than Medica II though even with that addition.
*Randomly Ninja's Edit previous post*
[edit]
I imagine it's because the initial application is technically strong and it's hard to tell the difference between 44 potency and 50 potency. If I recall correctly, the final value of a spell can RNG between +/- 10% which means the tick can have a potency of 40-48 on Diurnal A.Helios while Medica II tick can be 45-55. There's overlap in the 45-48 potency range which may skew an individual's observations.
@AST adjustments - I saw this on Reddit. Take with a grain of salt as it's a singular post until a more official translation hits the table.
It does mimic what Ceasaria is saying.
Last edited by Ghishlain; 05-12-2018 at 12:47 AM.

But I belive more that this change is more posible:
Now a bit Math:Nocturnal Sect Effect: Erects a magicked barrier which nullifies damage equaling150%175% - 200% of the amount of HP restored
Asp. Helios (Noc) = 150 HP * 1,15 (Heal) + 172,5 HP * 1,75% (Shield) = ~ 475 HP (at all)
Asp. Helios (Noc) = 150 HP * 1,15 (Heal) + 172,5 HP * 2,00% (Shield) = ~ 518 HP (at all)
Look for succor vs Asp. Helios (befor Patch 4.3):
Succor = 150 * 1 (Heal) + 150 * 1,5 (shield) = 375 HP (at all)
Asp. Helios (Noc) = 150 HP * 1,15 (Heal) + 172,5 HP * 1,5% (Shield) = ~ 409 HP (at all)
This finally has a strong contrast of Aspected Helios to Succor. This contrast was lost due to the change of Succor. But if I like this change, that's something in the stars.




"AST damage cast speed increased"
Ah no ok I understand, if it goes to 1,5 sec, it would be so nice.
It's nice for Lightspeed but I would like more.
Aspected Helios buff is not the right choice if they want to buff noct part.
Last edited by Ceasaria; 05-11-2018 at 11:14 PM.




Update :
"SCH - Pet usability adjustments
AST - Attack based spells cast time reduced, Lightspeed MP reduction effect from 25% to 50%, and damage inflict down effect will be removed. Aspected Helios will be buffed."


Whoa, that's a huge change. In conjunction with Celestial Opposition, if you decide to use this with it, you have 20seconds of half MP cost and 100% mobility while DPSing. Or 9-10 casts of half MP Gravity in dungeons.
This should also solve any and all MP issues since Lightspeed will be used more often. Pretty nice all around.
@Ghislain: Yeah you're right, Medica II is stronger on paper. In-game it doesn't feel any weaker at all though aside from it's distance. It's really odd that it's getting a buff, but I guess we'll see how it goes.
Last edited by Exiled_Tonberry; 05-12-2018 at 12:02 AM.


The buff on Aspected Helios will probably be a cast time reduction or really small potencies fix.
This AST buff is going to hurt whm I reckon. They were already lagging behind in rdps :x
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