Thread: 4.3 AST changes/speculations

Originally Posted by Seraphor

I think taking your idea in a slightly different direction, is rather see this:

Ewer: Bestows a weak HoT
Spire: MP and TP regen

Spire then becomes the new Ewer (purely for thematic reasons)

Whole Ewer fits a new sporadic use niche with Bole.
Bole serves as: shield while in diurnal, otherwise RR for 200% effect.
Ewer serves as: HoT while in nocturnal, otherwise RR for 50% AoE

Which I think carries on the sect duality nicely.

While I'd slightly prefer by-sect variance, or something that works equally well for either Sect rather than as a (stackable) functional redundancy for one, that would at least let us keep the 2/2/2 contributor sets for Royal Road.

I'd actually really like to see something that draws further from the idea of the tree trunk (bole) or pitcher (ewer), so to speak... Like, Bole increasing sturdiness not just for one person, but in a more collective manner, delimited by Expand, while Ewer is more about refreshment (of resource at minimum, but maybe more than just that?), but where each overflows on to a further ally via Expand, or whatnot. Though at that point it'd only be thematically fitting that Spear, Balance, and Arrow each turn into something that's more mechanical or paradigmatic than a simple buff... which would be altogether too complicated, at least for present XIV. I mean, it's not like TP is generally even a thing outside of dungeon speedruns and 2 globals of Demon at this point, and we probably lack the underlying code to transfer overhealing. Anything like this would also push AST towards being more identifiable as the raid coordinator, so to speak, rather than a standard healer.

Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry

CU being changed to 60s is tricky. It's incredibly strong afterall. Instead, maybe change Celestial Opposition to 90s so it alligns better with CU.

Mhhh CU 60s would be great for the Nocturnal. But this talent is just inflexible. You have to maintain that talent, you have to be in the right place and have a terrible cooldown timer. Yep it has a HoT, but this is reason enough against 1m CD. I do not think so.

But a change with CU would made the Diurnal Ast stronger. And I hardly think that Diurnal needs improvement. The solution to the problem lies elsewhere...

Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry

CU being changed to 60s is tricky. It's incredibly strong afterall. Instead, maybe change Celestial Opposition to 90s so it alligns better with CU.

But Lucid Dream have 120 sec.

I haven't read every post, but I just wanted to make a comment based on what I read at the start. Be advised I play SCH, so my opinion might seem biased, but I swear it's not. While slight changes to Nocturnal Sect might be good, it can't and shouldn't change drastically. Right now you can use Noct Sect comfortably, but too far in either direction and it'll either make them too weak, or out perform SCH by a wide margin. SCH still needs to be the "sheild" healer, not AST.

Originally Posted by Eloah

(...). While slight changes to Nocturnal Sect might be good, it can't and shouldn't change drastically. Right now you can use Noct Sect comfortably, but too far in either direction and it'll either make them too weak, or out perform SCH by a wide margin. SCH still needs to be the "sheild" healer, not AST.

Hey again Eloah,

First at all this thread is not "Scholor vs Nocturnal AST" thread! If you want write "Sch still needs to be THE "shield" healer and not the AST."

If you want to comment this, I recommend you this thread: Scholar vs Astrologian Mitigation

I find it questionable to suggest that the Nocturnal astro is right now "comfortably".

But I'm so free to show, a section of an astrologian guide by the player Sweet Memories of the realm "Faerie"



Source: Astrologian A Healer’s Handbook V. 2

That's not my view. But it shows that a sandbox healer should have the freedom. But not in the case which the Astro has now.