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  1. #631
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    Remedi's Avatar
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Could be like set tokens from wow in the end
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  2. #632
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    Usho's Avatar
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    Masahiro Kido
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    Excalibur
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    Better yet....how about...and roll with me on this one guys...How about SE just get rid of the whole one loot drop a week crap entirely so that way EVERYONE has a shot of getting loot and farming as much as they want? Sadly, this won't happen cause SE fears that by allowing players to grind faster for stuff they are afraid to lose sub money since some might unsub after getting what they want...despite the fact that Yoshi-Pee and company tells people it's ok not to play a lot and take a break. Yet, they are afraid to lose money for letting players grind faster for the things they want, the things they deserve because they pay their sub. I think there's All Greed on "both sides".
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  3. #633
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    SinisterJoints's Avatar
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    Lunafreya Valentine
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    Jenova
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Usho View Post
    Better yet....how about...and roll with me on this one guys...How about SE just get rid of the whole one loot drop a week crap entirely so that way EVERYONE has a shot of getting loot and farming as much as they want? Sadly, this won't happen cause SE fears that by allowing players to grind faster for stuff they are afraid to lose sub money since some might unsub after getting what they want...despite the fact that Yoshi-Pee and company tells people it's ok not to play a lot and take a break. Yet, they are afraid to lose money for letting players grind faster for the things they want, the things they deserve because they pay their sub. I think there's All Greed on "both sides".
    or how about they just leave because thats whats going to happen.
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  4. #634
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    Ilan's Avatar
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usho View Post
    Better yet....how about...and roll with me on this one guys...How about SE just get rid of the whole one loot drop a week crap entirely so that way EVERYONE has a shot of getting loot and farming as much as they want? Sadly, this won't happen cause SE fears that by allowing players to grind faster for stuff they are afraid to lose sub money since some might unsub after getting what they want...despite the fact that Yoshi-Pee and company tells people it's ok not to play a lot and take a break. Yet, they are afraid to lose money for letting players grind faster for the things they want, the things they deserve because they pay their sub. I think there's All Greed on "both sides".
    The Problem with that would not be that people would take a break when they are done, the problem is that they would complain again because they have nothing to do anymore. That would put more pressure on SE to come up with new content in shorter intervals what they are probably not able to do, not to mention that the quality of the game would suffer from that even more then right now.
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    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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  5. #635
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    Noshpan's Avatar
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    Ganth Fyrion
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    Leviathan
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    I feel that this change was completely unnecessary. As far as I know, I don't think I've seen anyone ask for this sort of change that wasn't trolling.

    I also strongly disagree with their reasoning behind it. Because I have used gear from the Alliance raids to catch up to current content.
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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

  6. #636
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    Usho's Avatar
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    Masahiro Kido
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    The Problem with that would not be that people would take a break when they are done, the problem is that they would complain again because they have nothing to do anymore. That would put more pressure on SE to come up with new content in shorter intervals what they are probably not able to do, not to mention that the quality of the game would suffer from that even more then right now.



    That's a dumb excuse. FFXI allowed you to farm for gear and whatever else content related and they never had to worry about peeps unsubbing in mass complaining about not getting any new content (or those that did complain were the minority who only do 2 things and then say "I have nothing else to do!"). Yoshi's team is just that lazy, that they can't beat a game over a decade old as far as making grinds easier. People will complain regardless in this era about not having anything to do, when there is a multitude of things for them to do in game but just are too lazy to do them.


    I mean come on dude...if they have the resources to put in pointless filler sidequests (the wine quest from the ridorana quests and the also pointless saltery sidequest which has no real bearing at all) then they can obviously afford to add new content and or remove the stupid weekly (force you to stay subbed) lockouts on loot. Those minor sidequests shows nothing but laziness and a waste of players sub money for subpar irrelevant content and makes a already slow grind even slower.



    They shouldn't have to worry about a minority who only sub for a few things each patch and then leave complaining they have nothing else to do. For a game that claims to have over "10 million active subscribers" they should have all the money they need to benefit the game, especially since Yoshi says it's fine for people to take a break from the game, then this excuse of "But they will complain about having nothing to do and leave" would be moot. Is he scared that everyone will unsub in droves? That's realistically unlikely and I think it's just an excuse to keep getting more sub money from us, even when the game is not able to unlock it's full potential because it is being held back by it's director who won't allow it's potential to grow.
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    Last edited by Usho; 05-28-2018 at 09:43 AM.

  7. #637
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    Lollerblades's Avatar
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    Aro Foreal
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Usho View Post
    That's a dumb excuse. FFXI allowed you to farm for gear and whatever else content related and they never had to worry about peeps unsubbing in mass complaining about not getting any new content (or those that did complain were the minority who only do 2 things and then say "I have nothing else to do!"). Yoshi's team is just that lazy, that they can't beat a game over a decade old as far as making grinds easier. People will complain regardless in this era about not having anything to do, when there is a multitude of things for them to do in game but just are too lazy to do them.
    XI had lockouts between grinds back in the day (Did you ever play then?), the difference is XI had more content for you to cycle through, whilst waiting for the lockout. XI's gear also stayed relevant for way longer, making the grind worth it.
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  8. #638
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    Alleo's Avatar
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    Nearly 290 likes, 64 pages and mostly negative feedback even after the patch, yet not even one single comment from the mods. :/
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  9. #639
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    TeddyXIV's Avatar
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    Teddy Ursa
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    I was hoping the maintenance would've reversed this decision, but nope. Lets see how long it takes for them to listen to us.
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  10. #640
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    Idontlikegreedonly's Avatar
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    Xarzia Moonbeam
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    Zodiark
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70

    I Don't Like The New Greed System

    I don't like the new greed system. Why can't people just play the class they need gear for?
    I don't want to fight with all the people in the raid group for one piece of gear that only I can use just so that they can have it for their alt job that they are never going to play anyway. Please do not do this. I like the old system of Need and Greed. It is a good system. If you want to replace the old system of need and greed then do it with tokens that you can turn in for gear instead of making it all greed.


    I also want to point out that I only made an acount on this forum just to complain on this specifc topic, this is how much I dislike this new system. Much love to the game otherwise.
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