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  1. #111
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
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    All they needs do is copy the Savage or EX Primal system. You receive a token/page, which you require say... 15 to exchange for the gear you want. Now it comes down to you either get lucky beforehand or get your preferred item after your fifteenth run. Certainly better than "run this x amount of times and pray to the heavens you out roll potentially seven people."
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  2. #112
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    Hestzhyen's Avatar
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    Hestzhyen Voer
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 80
    I'm interested in hearing why they're doing this. It's a terrible idea and as far as I know no one has seriously asked for greed only as an option in ANY content. If I definitely want gear for any reason, I will play the job that can Need on it. (And if I don't like playing the job, why do I want the gear? To stand around and look good?) Who asked for this "solution"? What problem are they even trying to solve with this?
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  3. #113
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    All they needs do is copy the Savage or EX Primal system. You receive a token/page, which you require say... 15 to exchange for the gear you want. Now it comes down to you either get lucky beforehand or get your preferred item after your fifteenth run. Certainly better than "run this x amount of times and pray to the heavens you out roll potentially seven people."
    Which would be fine if there was a way to get people to play the content past when it's new. Right now, try to play any of the Coil or Alexander content. It's completely abandoned. The Alliance raids were also nearly abandoned before they put the roulette in as well, and people still bend the rules so they don't get the hard content (I swear 75% of Alliance raids are LotA or Void Ark.) People would just spam the easy raids to get tokens, so whatever they eventually come up with needs to better than the tomes system (where you can basically buy everything pre-SB that came out with the same tomes.)
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  4. #114
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    alimdia's Avatar
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash_ View Post
    I'm actually more concerned about how late we're getting the new 24 man. Not just May, but specifically late May. Such an enormous content gap...
    May 22 according to the usual gap between patches.
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  5. #115
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Which would be fine if there was a way to get people to play the content past when it's new. Right now, try to play any of the Coil or Alexander content. It's completely abandoned. The Alliance raids were also nearly abandoned before they put the roulette in as well, and people still bend the rules so they don't get the hard content (I swear 75% of Alliance raids are LotA or Void Ark.) People would just spam the easy raids to get tokens, so whatever they eventually come up with needs to better than the tomes system (where you can basically buy everything pre-SB that came out with the same tomes.)
    That's what Alliance Roulette is for. All of Crystal Tower basically died until the Anima step forced us back into. Once they added it to the Roulette, it's fairly active. The tokens would only come from one raid. If you wanted Rabanastre gear, you must run Rabanastre, for example.
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    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 04-15-2018 at 11:00 AM.

  6. #116
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    Kewitt's Avatar
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    Ewitt Rainbow
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 100
    I really hate this, if I want gear I play the job.
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    Commendations.
    If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
    If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
    If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

    Only if they should be getting a commendation.
    There are always exceptions to the rules!

  7. #117
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    Lunie Khit
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    Cactuar
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    Archer Lv 80
    This is a seriously bad idea. It's already difficult enough with the current system to get the gear that you need because of rng both from the drops and from the players you get grouped with. This change does nothing but increase the rng that EVERYONE has to deal with, plus removing the incentive for healers and tanks to queue in for their gear. Why run as a healer and suffer through the raid when you can breeze through as dps and get the same chance at the gear? :v

    If this gets implemented, personally, I'm just gong to forget ever factoring in alliance raids into my gear progression (I don't do savage content) and only do the raid once a week for the coin.
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  8. #118
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    Shouko's Avatar
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    Aliiza Duskryn
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    Jenova
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    Weaver Lv 52
    Even tho I rarely run alliance raids when current, I have to wonder what the reasoning behind this is?
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  9. #119
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shouko View Post
    Even tho I rarely run alliance raids when current, I have to wonder what the reasoning behind this is?
    Probably the JP players are nicer about greed rolls.
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  10. #120
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    Silica-chan's Avatar
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    Rena Kangawa
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    Shiva
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kewitt View Post
    I really hate this, if I want gear I play the job.
    This is pretty much all that needs to be said. People that don't play the job they want to get gear for can still greed on loot anyways. If someone already has a certain piece of gear or simply not "Needs" it you can still get it. All this does is screw people that play the job they want to gear up.
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