From reddit and I whole heartedly agree.
"Sorry, we can't expand inventory space because oh no the servers can't handle it! Also we're expanding inventory space but only if you pay an extra fee on your already P2P game.
This is insulting."
Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]
Never thought I'd find myself writing this but WoW is looking increasingly attractive.
I am already paying extra to have alts, I am already paying for an extra retainer, I'm not paying for this.
If they had simply given us more storage in-game (even locked behind a one off payment) alongside an in-game calendar, I'd have been happy. Adding a more complicated system along with a pay-wall just leaves a sour taste.
Amazing how much effort they can put in when there's hard cash involved, amazing how much storage we can have if we pay extra for it.
I'm feeling increasingly ripped-off and disillusioned with this game.
Last edited by Solarra; 04-14-2018 at 10:15 PM.
They've got a long way to go to reach EA levels. Did you already forget about the lootbox issues with Star Wars Battlefront 2, and their long history of shadyness before that?
Also, I do see issues with it, just not the same issues most of you other whiners are seeing.
It's an app designed around what's accepted in Japanese culture, rather than a more world-wide approach to its features, which is going to cause friction. It's an extra cost that doesn't deliver a whole lot for that extra cost (despite what some claim, the premium features are not extensive, not game changing in the slightest - there's a real tempest in a teapot situation going on with that one). The moogle coins element does concern me, but I'm not going to cry and moan or even comment much until I know how they intend for it to work and what kind of limitations will or will not be in place.
But even though I have these problems with it, I also recognize that its impact on my gameplay experience will be negligible at best - I'll get the free version and get an extra lower cost teleportation spot.
Whoop. De. Freakin. Do.
If that makes me a white knight, then I'll be over here polishing my armor while you're busy making another complaint thread.
The time spent on the content for the game in 4.3 was done for free?
Do the devs know that?
If you've got any more silly things to add, please hurry, I've got errands to run.
Last edited by Berethos; 04-14-2018 at 09:58 PM.
It's an inventory management app where you need to pay to manage retainer inventory.. which is where the overwhelming majority of your inventory space is. Even if you just have the two retainers.
Does the free version of this even really have a point aside from chatting? Inventory management that excludes most of your inventory unless you pay extra is a farce.
They can't fix all kinds of serious in game problems because of budget and server limitations, but they can afford to develop this shameless cash grab?
Yeah, no. Lets call this what it really is.
Survivor of Housing Savage 2018.
Discord: Tridus#2642
It's a slippery slope though. I think they're intentionally starting small so more people are OK with it. Like with politicians and the sweeping changes to policy. They do it a small bit at a time, bit by bit, so less people kick up a stink. But over time, it snowballs. I can't put it past Square Enix to do the same here. Renting retainers, etc (which I am a part of the problem as I rent 2, but that's to have each type of retainer venture covered, I won't go beyond that as it doesn't add more types of venture), the insane amounts of cash shop items (which again I'm contributing towards). But I draw the line here. I'm not even convinced I'm going to install this app at all, even the free version.
So 8 things behind free version and 5 more things to use when you pay for it. (And lets be honest, these five points are probably those that are worth the most to the community. Since retainer management, more inventory through the saddle bags and theoretically even one more retainer which you can use to store and sell stuff are really interesting) If we say that the app can have 13 functions, you can only get to 8 without paying it. That is around 61% of the app and far away from your 90%. And this is only numbers and not just the importance of each function itself.
Also you bolded those that might have more impact. Interesting how those are all behind the paywall. Which is exactly what my post is about. You cant do 90% of the app for free and the most interesting ones are costing you money. How is that good?
Even more if you look at it in that way: You can chat and plan events outside of this app already thanks to stuff like discord. And you can also seemingly just chat with those that also own the app.
You know whats also interesting? That WoW had an App too (they took it down recently as far as I know) and it was completely free.
Why even take the money do to something like that? This app was talked about for such a long time and probably needs staff to look and work on it. All of that is money. For a chat that you can already do with discord, invites that still need people online to do it. With MB that you can either do once a day or twice (or x often if they can be done with coins too..) The retainer management also makes only sense to me if you use that to sell stuff which you still can do only twice a day if you pay.
So we are left with increase of retainer and chocobo saddle. Did we really need an app for that? Couldnt they have taken all that money that is put into this and will be put into it and just increased inventory for all of us?
Honestly the april fool FF14 Go was much more interesting than this. (For me at least)
Last edited by Alleo; 04-14-2018 at 10:02 PM.
Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.
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