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  1. #1
    Player
    Aerlana's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Lahna Orora
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 70
    To be honest...
    more than 700 euros in cash shop. (and dont count dyes, or wedding, nor retainer and the accoutn services (fantasia, serveur move etc )
    up to 7 retainer for storage, not 1 time buy (as most, or maybe all F2P) but a subscription!
    Now this.

    And all ok with some "other are doing worse" and the most "it is optionnal, if you dont want, dont pay" (and the storage matter for many people ? "optionnal" )

    What about adding 2, or 3 euros to the sub? but getting ALL for free. i mean [b]ALL|/B]
    Probably, because it is easier to drain some people, like milking cow that moooh appilly while they are sucked, than to be honest...
    (7)
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.
    Quote Originally Posted by GILDREIN View Post
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: [...]these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Remedi's Avatar
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Cerberus
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    you forget that they talked about a moguri coin which is probably a premium currency too
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    To put it bluntly, this is absolutely disgraceful. This is starting to feel like a Free to Play cash grab game with a sub stuck on top. WoW is starting to look more and more attractive again. At least over there your sub gives you almost everything...

    -50 characters, 11 alts per realm, free.
    -You can make unlimited market board listings
    -Free market board app, numerous websites for market board data
    -Tons of bag space, a huge crafting material bag, ability to mail storage alts, free.
    -Much smaller cash shop
    -Ability to buy anything from the cash shop, even your sub, with ingame currency.

    What's FF14's excuse? Enix isn't a small indie company nor is the game a cutting edge product, their servers and game engine quality are inferior to Blizzards which is a decade and a half old. I don't get it, why do we have to pay a vastly increased sub and not even get the same features other games hand out free? Very disappointed.
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    Deceptus Keelon
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    From reddit and I whole heartedly agree.

    "Sorry, we can't expand inventory space because oh no the servers can't handle it! Also we're expanding inventory space but only if you pay an extra fee on your already P2P game.

    This is insulting."
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Solarra's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Sylbritt Muscadet
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 89
    Never thought I'd find myself writing this but WoW is looking increasingly attractive.

    I am already paying extra to have alts, I am already paying for an extra retainer, I'm not paying for this.
    If they had simply given us more storage in-game (even locked behind a one off payment) alongside an in-game calendar, I'd have been happy. Adding a more complicated system along with a pay-wall just leaves a sour taste.
    Amazing how much effort they can put in when there's hard cash involved, amazing how much storage we can have if we pay extra for it.

    I'm feeling increasingly ripped-off and disillusioned with this game.
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    Last edited by Solarra; 04-14-2018 at 10:15 PM.

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    Cecelia Stormfeather
    World
    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    It's an inventory management app where you need to pay to manage retainer inventory.. which is where the overwhelming majority of your inventory space is. Even if you just have the two retainers.

    Does the free version of this even really have a point aside from chatting? Inventory management that excludes most of your inventory unless you pay extra is a farce.

    They can't fix all kinds of serious in game problems because of budget and server limitations, but they can afford to develop this shameless cash grab?

    Yeah, no. Lets call this what it really is.
    (14)
    Survivor of Housing Savage 2018.
    Discord: Tridus#2642

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    Remedi's Avatar
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Cerberus
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    @Tridus pparently in Japan they don't have discord or something so from their point of wiew the app is very useful if that's true.

    As for us ye the free app is pretty much worthless
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    Carlosa Ria
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    If they can give a full breakdown of how this revenue will be used to help the game then I suppose it's not as bad. I'm worried that it's going to be used to fund other projects instead though.
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    Last edited by Steviejd; 04-14-2018 at 10:01 PM.

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    K'ym Bhoyo
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    People have decried microtransactions via Mogstation before, but other than retainers, those have been cosmetic. It poses no negative impact on players. This, however, poses an issue for those who can't afford to pay for premium + the Moogle Coins. There is an actual disparity there. This $5 app sub will provide a tangible in-game benefit to those who can cough up the fees. The retainer and teleport features feel fair, considering you still have to pay for the retainer when it unlocks. The saddlebag expansion for a sub fee feels like a cash grab. We already pay a sub and we need to pay an additional $5 to get a bag size increase. At least retainers can do ventures/sell. The saddlebag can only hold items. The organization features feel like they should count as QOL, with how needed they are, not bonus features we get via a paid app.Between retainers, a sub, Mog Coins, it adds up. It seems low of SE to make menial features part of a paid app, and restricting the MB to daily or pay.
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    Rhus's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Y'dyalani Rhus
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Oh man if I can use my and update retainers...goodbye life
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