Final Fantasy 14 App

[Fourbestintoner]

I thought this game had reached the lowest of the low, but yoshi keep surpassing my expectations, well done, they have found a really good new scam.

[Oriens]

What's the most vile of all of this are the white knights on this forum justifying additional costs for BASIC features relating to a SUBSCRIPTION model game where you also have to BUY the game.

[Alleo]

Before its seen that I am only hating I will just give my idea of an acceptable version of this app:

First for me, premium felt fine if it was done to make something faster or give a bit more options.

So the free version should have been:

- Chat
- Event planner
- Inventory management for all parts (inventory, retainer, saddlebag, armory)

And 1 Free retainer.

I would call this the APP storage retainer. It would only exist in the app and at least in the free version cant be used to sell something. Its used to store more items and thus give us more space.

Kupo Nuts are still one per day but instead of using them for the MB you will use them to sent that APP storage retainer onto special ventures. You have one venture that need 1 kupo nut that will just be like the fast ones in the game and you have a special venture that need 7 nuts (thus one week of logging in) and that can bring you quite the rare items from the game. This way there is nothing completely exclusive to the app thus does not make it necessary to have it but people can still gain something from that. It could be pets, orchestrion rolls, rare mats. These can then be transfered to the real retainers and either used by yourself or sold.

The MB does not need nuts but instead you have a maxium amount of changes you can do per day. Maybe 10 or maybe 20. This includes price changes, selling and purchasing items. This way it makes the app more useful for the MB but would not be too much to destroy it.

You might question where they will get their money from if we can already do that for free!

Premium one:

Instead of one nut you will get 4 kupo nuts per day. This way you can already sent your special retainer to the extra venture on the second day and more often per week instead of having to wait a whole one to send it once. That means more chances to get rare stuff thus more gil. You can also raise the MB interactions thus for example making it double the amount you can do for free. So if you are into this kind of MB war you can get into it a bit more often if you pay for it.

And maybe some more smaller changes for those that pay.

This way people that pay do have an advantage but at least everyone that owns the app have the same basic functions and just need more time to do stuff.

[Vaer]

Before its seen that I am only hating I will just give my idea of an acceptable version of this app:

Dunno... people not using the app would be at a disadvantage and you would have to keep this chore up every day to get extra stuff and constantly use the app to have access to the stuff on the retainer, at least right now I don't have to care about the paid MB thing because I can easily bypass it by just logging in and using the MB normally.

Basically, not using the app in it's current form doesn't really hurt me in any way that I can't fix myself. I mean I guess most people might not mind having to check the app multiple times a day to get free stuff (I'm so tired of venture/garrison/order hall daily chores) and move stuff around but I'm sure there might be others that might not want to deal with it. Free stuff is still free stuff.

[Remedi]

It's not much better a premium mode that way will have more special ventures than a free one.
Frankly the premium fee shouldn't have been a thing at all

[Alleo]

It's not much better a premium mode that way will have more special ventures than a free one.
Frankly the premium fee shouldn't have been a thing at all

But imo way better than having more space, one additional retainer that you can buy and the complete retainer management behind it. With a bit of more nuts and more numbers that you can access the MB you will just get some small advantages over the ones that dont pay. Kinda lika lot of APP games let you pay for more energy or to unlock stuff. (AKA make things faster)

I agree that in a good world it should have been completely free. But sadly SE seems to get money out of everything.

[Remedi]

But imo way better than having more space, one additional retainer that you can buy and the complete retainer management behind it. With a bit of more nuts and more numbers that you can access the MB you will just get some small advantages over the ones that dont pay. Kinda lika lot of APP games let you pay for more energy or to unlock stuff. (AKA make things faster)

I agree that in a good world it should have been completely free. But sadly SE seems to get money out of everything.

I insist that if we keep our voice High we might be getting heard.

Look to the steam port of Chrono Trigger.
PPl hated it and they patched it

That makes me think that they can hear and comply to requests

[Solarra]

Frankly the premium fee shouldn't have been a thing at all

This ^

I'm sorry Alleo, I do agree your version would be better, but I still wouldn't support it.
I just don't agree with Square offering a two tier system of the App that requires us to pay more money to access all the features. At this point it does feel like the company is managing to 'have it's cake and eat it'. We pay a sub but we also pay for basic features like storage and now inventory management.

[Alleo]

This ^

I'm sorry Alleo, I do agree your version would be better, but I still wouldn't support it.

Haha dont worry. It was more of an lesser devil kind of idea anyway.

@Vaer: You do kinda "lose" with the real app too since you cant have the between retainer management and you kinda lose 70 more inventory spaces thanks to the chocobo saddlebag increase. And since we dont know how we will be able to use the moogle coins..who knows if that wont allow us to suddenly change the MB quite more.

But yeah my idea was more of a: If they need a paid part make it at least way less usefull then the one right now. In the end a complete free app should have been the way to go. (Like WoW did)

[Vaer]

Haha dont worry. It was more of an lesser devil kind of idea anyway.

@Vaer: You do kinda "lose" with the real app too since you cant have the between retainer management and you kinda lose 70 more inventory spaces thanks to the chocobo saddlebag increase. And since we dont know how we will be able to use the moogle coins..who knows if that wont allow us to suddenly change the MB quite more.

But yeah my idea was more of a: If they need a paid part make it at least way less usefull then the one right now. In the end a complete free app should have been the way to go. (Like WoW did)

The extra inventory space I'm actually not too offended about. They usually charge for it (on XI actually they did the exact same thing, they give you some mog wardrobe space then they sell extra ones and at one point you had to have a physical authenticator (this was a one time payment though) to get access to another bag in XI), I'm actually surprised we even got the first set of it with no extra charge actually. I can just login to mess with my retainers though if that's what you mean by retainer management. Sure it's slightly more annoying since you have to be at a bell, but it falls down to convenience for me in the end.

Basically other than the inventory space all the stuff in the app you can do yourself (even if it's a bit more annoying) by just logging in unless I'm missing something so to me it comes down to convenience.

Your proposal has things locked to the app that gives you extra items for the game, so I see that as quite different.

Anyways, they are being quite strict about the MB but for good reason. You could load this app into an emulator and do unsavory things to put it lightly so they are being cautious about it.

I do think the kupo nut MTx is unnecessary if they have a sub fee on it though but they definitely need to throttle the MB feature in some way.

The problem is the info isn't all out, my opinion might change once they release all of it.