I'm deeply troubled

[SannaR]

So do you actually want the mini skirts and the basically panties with two metal tabs the ladies have gotten for the whm only gear on your guy? Just wondering. Healer/Cleric is the iconic look and always been a robe and the 1st ff whm was a guy. Orisen set came from XI and the main difference is the robe is slightly more dress like and the hat. 7th heaven at least guys get actual pants and no fan at the back of it that clips into weapons and long hair choices. I get wanting to have more male stuff but if you're main complaint is the jse then you're closing off a lot of shared gear from crafting, dungeons and tomes that you can use for glamour just have to play mix n match. I'm all for more male glamour and I do get the difficulties in glamouring certain races as some things look better on others. Like Au Ra and tattoo tops; most go over or run into the scales where it ruins the tat.

[Iscah]

7th heaven at least guys get actual pants and no fan at the back of it that clips into weapons and long hair choices.

I got to see the male version of the Seventh Heaven gear the other day and I like it better. And ACTUAL PANTS as you say. Likewise for the Lv70 bard gear.

[Berethos]

I got to see the male version of the Seventh Heaven gear the other day and I like it better. And ACTUAL PANTS as you say. Likewise for the Lv70 bard gear.

Our Bard pants make me sad - there's a nice little extra side bit on the shorts that looks nice...

That disappears as soon as you put on the coat (or 90% of chest pieces - anything that extends past the waist even just a bit).

[Lukha]

I got to see the male version of the Seventh Heaven gear the other day and I like it better. And ACTUAL PANTS as you say.

I would trade you in a heartbeat. The panties female WHM regularly get aren't QUITE what I want for my character, but they would be a million times better than the generic pair of slacks males get instead, that look just like the generic slacks we got for...almost every single other set in the game. And don't even get me started on the Skalla set; the shorts + stockings from the original contest design are the #1 thing I have wanted for glamour for YEARS at this point, and when the set finally made it in-game I spammed Skalla for ages for them only to find out that they're...yet another pair of ugly pants for me.

This is even worse than the Skalla set, though; this set was designed on a MALE CHARACTER, so if it turns out the female version is closer to the original design than the male version, SE is going to have some serious explaining to do.