Can we please get a subscription rate for both FFXIV and FFXI?

[NovaUltimatum]

I've spoken with a few friends who would happily pay a slightly higher subscription fee for access to both games, rather than just one. (A lot of people can be put off paying for both)

This used to be a thing a few years back, but it was a limited time offer. Just hoping that SE would be willing to do it again to see if it's profitable.

[Lambdafish]

Why would SE do this? They don't care about XI and want you to be playing this game, and people who want to play both games tend to pay both subs

[Amaeth]

I've always been confused they've not done this. Yoshi-P has famously said that if you're bored between patches, go play another game. SE have another MMO and offering a discount might keep all the money with them rather than some of it going elsewhere.

Whilst it's old and a very different style, I can say from experience it is still possible to get enjoyment from it as a new player, and if you get you and 2 or 3 real life or FC buddies and you all switch games at the same time it could be good fun.
At the least I would have thought an active FFXIV subscription would get you a free 30 day trial (I dont think FFXI has one does it?)

[NovaUltimatum]

Why would SE do this? They don't care about XI and want you to be playing this game, and people who want to play both games tend to pay both subs

Why would SE do this? Because it has the potential to bring additional profit. There are players who would be willing to play both games for a reduced fee rather both at full price.

They don't care about FFXI? I mean this just isn't true. The game still has monthly updates and still generates income.

[Canadane]

I need my shoes!

[Enkidoh]

You don't have yours anymore Cana? I still have mine. (Best level 1 footwear in ARR stat wise and the bonus to Sprint is nice too ).

Seriously though, given it seemed not too many players actually took up that offer in 1.0 (or rather, not enough to constitute a 'success' in SE's book), it's likely SE simply aren't interested in repeating it now (it's whole point after all was to try and lure FFXI players into trying the new game rather than reward players for playing both, with FFXI now in it's Indian Summer, it's rather moot anyway).

ARR is a massive success so to many a revival of such a reward system for having simultaneous subs for both games might be seen as simply FFXIV subsidizing FFXI rather than rewarding players for playing both games.

[Lilseph]

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Whilst it's old and a very different style, I can say from experience it is still possible to get enjoyment from it as a new player, and if you get you and 2 or 3 real life or FC buddies and you all switch games at the same time it could be good fun.
At the least I would have thought an active FFXIV subscription would get you a free 30 day trial (I dont think FFXI has one does it?)

I am one of those. I recently played XI (couple of months ago) when I was taking a ahort break from XIV (just logging in for tomestones and weeklies) and I had a blast! Very fun game, nice community. It's slow and it takes a bit to fet used to its terrible old UI but it's a great game. Finished a couple of expansions but my subscription died past the middle point of Chains of Promathia. (I love Prishe).

I'd be down for a subscription bundle.

[BluexBird]

Why would SE do this? They don't care about XI and want you to be playing this game, and people who want to play both games tend to pay both subs

You need a lesson on economics. I'm not about to give you one. I'll just say this:


Both games currently have subscribers. I'm gonna guess FFXIV has more but whatever. And yeah sure, some people are probably paying subscriptions for both games. But consider that there might be some people who would be willing to subscribe for both games, but don't because it's expensive. If Square were to come out with a subscription option that joins both games together, those players might be interested.

Of course, they would lose money from the people who currently subscribe individually to both games at once. So it would be a matter of analyzing how much of a loss this would be, compared to the potential number of players who would adhere to the new model.

[SilverObi]

I remember this being tossed around as an idea but did it actually come about back then? I don't remember paying less on XI while playing both games, but admittedly I can't remember when XIV started/ended/restarted paid subs for itself

[worldofneil]

SE probably think that anyone who wants to play XI is already playing (and paying) so if they did this they'd lose more money from reducing those subscriptions than they'd get from new ones coming in.

Even when the dual game subscription first came out it wasn't permanent either. It was only for up to 3 months to promote the (at the time) new XIV.