Lockboxes prove there is an inventory management problem with this game

[Nestama]

I never really had an issue with inventory bloat caused by Eureka, as I don't hoard lockboxes (after every Eureka run, I hand them in. Usually only spending 10-20 minutes doing this, with plenty of inventory space to spare). Just because one person let themselves collect 10k+ lockboxes doesn't mean majority of the playerbase also does this (though to those who do: why? what's preventing you from handing them in in-between runs, or straight up tossing them?).

9 completely avoidable hours.

[Krokov]

I never really had an issue with inventory bloat caused by Eureka, as I don't hoard lockboxes (after every Eureka run, I hand them in. Usually only spending 10-20 minutes doing this, with plenty of inventory space to spare). Just because one person let themselves collect 10k+ lockboxes doesn't mean majority of the playerbase also does this (though to those who do: why? what's preventing you from handing them in in-between runs, or straight up tossing them?).

9 completely avoidable hours.

I'm save them up so I don't have to go back and get more so quickly.

[Nestama]

I'm save them up so I don't have to go back and get more so quickly.

You do know there's an NPC outside of Eureka who does lockbox hand-ins, right? Why not hand them in while waiting for a duty to pop, or a party to fill up?

[Krokov]

You do know there's an NPC outside of Eureka who does lockbox hand-ins, right? Why not hand them in while waiting for a duty to pop, or a party to fill up?

Simple like I said I post I'm saving them up then when I feel I have enough I will go have them opened.

[Nestama]

Simple like I said I post I'm saving them up then when I feel I have enough I will go have them opened.

I don't really see a point to doing that (RNG is RNG), but different strokes for different folks, I guess.

[Seig345]

Your viewpoints on the matter are not fact, it is only a fact that they are your viewpoint.

Maybe the gil is worthless to you, but the same doesn’t objectively hold true for everyone else.

Again, your argument here seems based on your perspective while the topic name implies there is something objectively wrong.

You would probably get more productive discussion if you conceded to the issue applying to certain players, rather than just blast your opinion as fact on behalf of the rest of us.

[Vstarstruck]

Your viewpoints on the matter are not fact, it is only a fact that they are your viewpoint.

Maybe the gil is worthless to you, but the same doesn’t objectively hold true for everyone else.

You are twisting what was said. I stated it is not an exaggeration on the FACT it took me 2 hours to move items across retainers for my SO (since people want to derail this and reference another thread they derailed)

It is also a fact it took this person 9 hours of the topic I linked here. None of what I say is an exaggeration, those are facts. No where was I linking that to what I feel is worthless or not, how did you get that message?

my main point is I do not state exaggerations with this issue, I just like it to be addressed.

I never really had an issue with inventory bloat caused by Eureka, as I don't hoard lockboxes (after every Eureka run, I hand them in. Usually only spending 10-20 minutes doing this, with plenty of inventory space to spare). Just because one person let themselves collect 10k+ lockboxes doesn't mean majority of the playerbase also does this (though to those who do: why? what's preventing you from handing them in in-between runs, or straight up tossing them?).

9 completely avoidable hours.

Your questions was answered in the link:

While it's true it might be less of a mental strain to open them after each session, fact is that it'll still require the same amount of time in the end (likely longer since u can be more effective while opening lots at once). I simply wanted to complete the farm as fast as possible and that's partly why I waited with opening so many of them for so long ^

Uhm... I've mostly been doing Eureka since it came out to be honest. A few raids on the side and some errands IRL etc... It's hard to estimate how fast I gained crystals because it differed by which NM (or FATEs) had been killed already when I entered etc.

The total amount of Anemos crystals required, assuming the average gain is 3.5 proteans per anemos is, however 29679 and if I were to guess, I'd say I got maybe 250-350 crystals in 3h at an average.

So yeah it was avoidable if they simply tossed each 999 stack at a time and never bothered with them, but some stated doing that is tossing a lot of gil?

It dm what you think the Marjory has to deal with. I do not even deal with them at all because of this issue. I tried like 10 and said ,nope not doing this 1800 more times. THAT was from simply GETTING level 20.

[Nestama]

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What you quoted pretty much tells me it's the players own fault for wanting to get things done ASAP (kudos to them for not burning out). This isn't as big of an issue as you're making it sound.

[Vstarstruck]

I never stated anything about an exaggeration.
My point is that it's a fact that despite having played FFXIV since 2.0 with relatively few breaks and having leveled all craft/gather jobs to level 40+

You do realize that is not a big deal yes? It is obvious you will not have inventory problems when you do not craft and gather a lot? It does not take much to be 40+, for both inventory space for the materials to get there, and the time it takes. You an get 1-50 in a few hours spending leves, it is not a big deal.

This is still off the point though, it does not matter if you did not say anything about exaggeration, keep in mind what you did say:

Your viewpoints on the matter are not fact, it is only a fact that they are your viewpoint.

Maybe the gil is worthless to you, but the same doesn’t objectively hold true for everyone else.

I was only stating what I was claiming what was fact. I was not trying to suggest gil is worthless for everyone, that was not the "facts" I was talking about. I was simply stating everything I said is not an exaggeration, thus fact.

You're merging posts now. In response to your OP, and defending my reply:

(1) Claiming FFXIV's inventory situation gets worse by the update is ridiculous, and a clear, objective exaggeration.

No it is not, it has been happening since HW. What I said is a fact and not an exaggeration. What is ridiculous is you refusing to admit that.

In HW they did not increase the armory in accordance to how many jobs they added.
They keep adding glams and gear without adding enough space to cover for it
they keep adding and bloating us with currency without adding space for it
Sorry I was stating fact here, not exaggeration.

Ever since HW it has been 1 step forward and 2 steps back (999 stack, glam dresser, etc) They keep making the situation worse while making it appear they are "trying"

(4) If you're keeping anywhere near 120 currencies, you're doing it wrong. The vast, vast majority of currencies are deprecated at this point in time. There is nowhere near 120 currently-relevant currencies in FFXIV. My SO has this problem as well, but unlike you, she isn't inclined to blame SE - she knows the problem is her, and her lack of knowledge in regards to what is or isn't relevant anymore. I certainly think SE could help make it more obvious, but that's a separate discussion.

So I guess you do not know runescape? Yes it is SE's fault. Trying to put so much burden on the player for major shortcomings in your words is "ridiculous" I am sure there is even more then 120 currency related items in this game. I wonder how many there are though.. too many to count that is for sure.

I shouldn't of spent 2 hours moving currencies to 1 retainer, that is SE's bad design fault, because they never plan ahead in designs and keep overlooking inventory issues, and seeing this lockbox situation is further proof on such a statement. If the game was designed better, people wouldn't be having these problems. I think it is a ridiculous idea you expect people to put up with glaring problems and not talk about it.

Is it worth the effort to spare this niche group of users a little bit of pain? Arguably not.

So are you implying SE shouldn't be making savage and super savage content because it appeals to an even smaller group of niche users?

I'd really urge a look in the mirror at this point. You've now made two threads wherein the responses have indicated quite clearly that your complaints are very much YOUR complaints, rather than issues facing a majority of players. Everyone's got an opinion and all that, and you're entitled to yours, but I really wonder what you're hoping to achieve with your combative posts at this stage.

To fix the game? stop ignoring 2-4 + year problems? the stop giving SE a pass for x,y, z problems on the base of refusal to fix the core coding of this game? basically, i think it is time the "1.0 limitations" are put to an ends. You do realize, I see your posts as combative? I am not combative, I am simply replying to people who start the combative, if you want to go there. (so I guess the take a look in the mirror thing can apply to you as well?)

[Seig345]

You do realize that is not a big deal yes? It is obvious you will not have inventory problems when you do not craft and gather a lot? It does not take much to be 40+, for both inventory space for the materials to get there, and the time it takes. You an get 1-50 in a few hours spending leves, it is not a big deal.

This is still off the point though, it does not matter if you did not say anything about exaggeration, keep in mind what you did say

So no one can really understand the problem unless they have all craft/gather jobs maxed out to level cap AND have 1000+ lockboxes saved up.

Got it.