Sole Survivor: The Semi-Excog Treatment

[SummerScorcher]

Hey everybody, I was bored again today and I had an idea with Sole Survivor. As the title entails, what if we would give SS the Excog treatment, but with a bit more flavour.

Sole Survivor
First of all, let's cut that unjustifiably long cooldown in half. Should be 60 seconds to be in line with Equilibrium/Clemency.
Cooldown: 60s

Marks target with Another Victim. If that target should be KO'd in battle, 20% of your maximum HP and MP will be restored. Action changes to Devour upon execution.
This is where the flavour comes in. The action "Sole Survivor" changes into "Devour" (or a different name).
Should Devour be used before Another Victim expires, you will receive a percentage of your maximum HP corresponding to the duration left on Another Victim.
Say you use Devour at 14 seconds left, you would receive a small amount of HP, say, 10% of your max HP. If you were to time it at 2 seconds left, it'd give you something around 25% of your max HP.

If you let it run out without the mob dying or you using Devour, you receive 5% of your max HP. This way you can use it on single target, but will still favor using it on dying adds for the HP and MP. Also a little consolation prize should you fail to time it well.

I thought about adding potency to Devour to keep true to the syphoning theme 100%, however, that would make you use it for the damage. In my opinion, this skill should be situational just as Clemency and Equilibrium are.

So thats it, just thought I'd drop it by. Let me know what you think about it.

[Jonnycbad]

I think that instead of Clemency (GCD) or Equilibrium (long CD), DRK was supposed to passively gain HP just using their DPS combo (Souleater). So whereas a PLD or WAR needs to actively use the skill and is limited by CD or MP (or GCD), DRK gains HP over the course of the battle for free. Also, DRK has Abyssal Drain. Just saying, DRK has multiple ways to self heal other than Sole Survivor.


In my opinion, the effect should be changed to be that if the enemy is under 20% HP, it instantly grants you the effect, rather than it having to be on when the enemy dies.

[SummerScorcher]

I think that instead of Clemency (GCD) or Equilibrium (long CD), DRK was supposed to passively gain HP just using their DPS combo (Souleater). So whereas a PLD or WAR needs to actively use the skill and is limited by CD or MP (or GCD), DRK gains HP over the course of the battle for free. Also, DRK has Abyssal Drain. Just saying, DRK has multiple ways to self heal other than Sole Survivor.

WAR has Steel Cyclone, it's practically the same thing as Abyssal Drain. That, it has Equilibrium, and if needed, Inner Release + Inner Beast. Paladin is limited by the GCD and MP but can restore HP on a much more consistent basis. Dark Knight has practically no form of self healing outside of Grit, currently- and even that is rather pitiful. While I'd welcome Souleater healing out of Grit (in open arms, mind you) it wouldn't change the fact that you can't use Sole Survivor in a fight with no adds.

[WhyAmIHere]

I think that instead of Clemency (GCD) or Equilibrium (long CD), DRK was supposed to passively gain HP just using their DPS combo (Souleater). So whereas a PLD or WAR needs to actively use the skill and is limited by CD or MP (or GCD), DRK gains HP over the course of the battle for free. Also, DRK has Abyssal Drain. Just saying, DRK has multiple ways to self heal other than Sole Survivor.


In my opinion, the effect should be changed to be that if the enemy is under 20% HP, it instantly grants you the effect, rather than it having to be on when the enemy dies.

Except, not including Drain, there is no passive HP regain while not under grit, whereas there are no such restrictions for WAR/PLD.

[Arek]

Interesting mechanism. Doubt it will be implemented but pretty good idea.

[InfiniDragon]

Except, not including Drain, there is no passive HP regain while not under grit, whereas there are no such restrictions for WAR/PLD.

Not fully accurate, as WAR's only self heal in Deliverance is Path. Equilibrium is TP restore in Deliverance, and no Steel Cyclone or Inner Beast. Whereas in Defiance they have Path, IB, SC and Equilibrium.

I do still fully advocate for DRK to have Souleater heal out of Grit though, since they have less passive mitigation than PLD and less CDs than WAR.

[TouchandFeel]

Not fully accurate, as WAR can only heal with Path in Deliverance.

Storm's Path description straight from the Job Guide.

Delivers an attack with a potency of 100.
Combo Action: Maim
Combo Potency: 280
Combo Bonus: Absorbs a portion of damage dealt as HP
Defiance/Deliverance Combo Bonus: Increases Beast Gauge by 20

The heal from Path is not stance dependent.

[InfiniDragon]

Storm's Path description straight from the Job Guide. No

Delivers an attack with a potency of 100.
Combo Action: Maim
Combo Potency: 280
Combo Bonus: Absorbs a portion of damage dealt as HP
Defiance/Deliverance Combo Bonus: Increases Beast Gauge by 20

The heal from Path is not stance dependent.

You misunderstood me, my wording was poor here.

I meant "they can only heal with Path as they can't do Equilibrium, SC and IB in Deliverance", not "Path doesn't heal you in Defiance". I'm well aware Path heals in both stances (used to main WAR), sorry for the confusion and I'll edit my other post to be worded more clearly.

[zuzu-bq]

I'd rather have TBN to get the Excog treatment.

[Derio]

I would rather go with the community thread where soul survivor drains HP and MP from the target to the DRK overtime and at the end of the counter if the target dies restores additional HP and MP.