Thread: No flying in 5.0: Would it be better?

Originally Posted by Ghastly

Interesting viewpoints here but I just wanted to say that I prefer the fact that 3.0 and 4.0 maps are bigger than 2.0 so if a community manager is reading this please don't tell the devs that we ALL want smaller maps. What I'm looking for is for them to keep the same size map or even bigger but designed similar to Eureka basically where every location is like a painting to look at, beautiful, unique and full. Hopefully there's more support for this and even if we don't see it in 5.0 hopefully they consider it for 6.0.

but that has nothing to do with flying o.ô;

the maps can be beautiful regardless of the ability to fly. i think the size of the map plays a bigger role when it comes to the details.

No flying is fine as long as it is balanced right, like getting to nodes and such.

I think people are misplacing blame on what makes the maps feel barren.

In 1.0 the maps where big because they saved memory space with the huge amount of copy and paste, so they made the maps smaller to get rid of all the copy and paste.

Now in the newer zones they tried to make them big again, and due to server limitations or ps4 limitations or whatever they want to blame, meant things needed to be spread out more.

Having spots of empty land makes it feel realistic but.. idk just look in wow , there is swamp land, dense forests and such...

Originally Posted by Tint

but that has nothing to do with flying o.ô;

Smaller maps implies it will feel too small with flying to fit the room to make zones feel fuller.

Originally Posted by Ghastly

Interesting viewpoints here but I just wanted to say that I prefer the fact that 3.0 and 4.0 maps are bigger than 2.0 so if a community manager is reading this please don't tell the devs that we ALL want smaller maps. What I'm looking for is for them to keep the same size map or even bigger but designed similar to Eureka basically where every location is like a painting to look at, beautiful, unique and full. Hopefully there's more support for this and even if we don't see it in 5.0 hopefully they consider it for 6.0.

Eureka is small though, i think the servers would explode if they had bigger maps then HW or SB zones while having it look like full everywhere like Eureka.

Is it too much to ask to have flying AND better map design ?

For example, have a dense jungle with clearings where you can take off and fly over the canopy, but if you want to travel below the canopy you have to find a clearing and walk. If you try to fly your mount underneath the canopy it forces you to land or dismount completely.

Eureka is a great map to be sure, and being forced to get around on foot certainly helped to appreciate it more (and it's for that reason we weren't allowed to fly right away in 3.0/4.0 zones), but there have been many times where I wished I could fly up into the trees and other out-of-reach places. I'd rather they not take flying out. I know this discussion is asking a "if you want X would you be willing to sacrifice Y" sort of question, but I feel if they're going to give us these huge zones, the least they could do is fill them in a little more. I'm not trying to undermine the amount of work it takes to build these zones mind you. It just feels like a waste seeing all these buildings you can't enter (Namai, Kugane, and the Azim Steppe yurts break my heart) or landmarks that aren't given any lore or explanation (The Northeastern area of the Dravanian Forelands map that's only accessible by flying, The Arms of Meed in The Peaks, Dimwold in the Fringes, Swallow's Compass in Yanxia, just to name a few). There are just so many missed opportunities to make the zones richer.