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    Two of my friends who had retired in the early months after the game's initial release tried to come back to the game. They both had really high hopes and were very energized over the idea of rejoining the community and even were ok with paying the subscription fees.
    They both quit again after a week of playing because neither could find anyone in the low level ranges to form a party anymore. Sort of a product of low server population in addition to everyone being max level in basically everything by this point in time.

    Sure, we could have exploited the claim system to power level them up, but some people play a MMO for the journey not necessarily the numbers. And if you can't participate with your friends (or make new ones) through out all aspects of the game, what is the point of playing a social game at all? I know that the dev team has promised us a level sync system in 2.0, so I just wanted to highlight the importance of it if they expect to to have capped people and new or returning people coincide merrily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kio View Post
    Sort of a product of low server population in addition to everyone being max level in basically everything by this point in time.
    I cal shenanigens, not everyone has all clases to 50. Most don't even have most classes to 50 .The server population part, though, I can agree with. I quess I am lucky on besaid, as we have enough of a population that I stil see people registred on search or shouting for 15-20 level range groups. So far, everytime I got to party on my lower level range classes I seem t ofind groups in reasonable amounts of time.

    I am against level syncs. Especially when its so easy to PL. Both of which I am against, personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kio View Post
    Two of my friends who had retired in the early months after the game's initial release tried to come back to the game. They both had really high hopes and were very energized over the idea of rejoining the community and even were ok with paying the subscription fees.
    They both quit again after a week of playing because neither could find anyone in the low level ranges to form a party anymore. Sort of a product of low server population in addition to everyone being max level in basically everything by this point in time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    I cal shenanigens, not everyone has all clases to 50. Most don't even have most classes to 50 .The server population part, though, I can agree with. I quess I am lucky on besaid, as we have enough of a population that I stil see people registred on search or shouting for 15-20 level range groups. So far, everytime I got to party on my lower level range classes I seem t ofind groups in reasonable amounts of time.

    I am against level syncs. Especially when its so easy to PL. Both of which I am against, personally.
    It's Kio's scenario thats exactly what I'm talking about. These players arrive or return to a environment where they are the odd man out. They then leave soon there after because they just can't stomach leveling any of thier classes which are low level due to such a shallow selection of other players of a similar level.

    Coglin, you might be correct that most people don't have everything @ 50. I don't. I still have Mar @ 37 Pug 39 and Conj 47.
    I have a few LS mates that have a few class scattered around in the 20's a few in the 30's level range. But this is the kicker; Most of the levels are out of PT range so between 6 people we might have something like this:
    lv 19 24 29 32 33 37.
    Under XIV rules you could take the 19-29 and make a PT (hope the 29 doesn't level before the 19!) then the 32-37 people could form up and EXP.

    But Wouldn't it be nice if you could just all sync to 19 and play together? Isn't that what community is about?

    This is a game, We are meant to have fun and play together.

    between the low populations and the disparity in level ranges it keeps people divided for too long of a time.

    Level Sync is a good system to unite the player base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    I cal shenanigens, not everyone has all clases to 50. Most don't even have most classes to 50 .The server population part, though, I can agree with. I quess I am lucky on besaid, as we have enough of a population that I stil see people registred on search or shouting for 15-20 level range groups. So far, everytime I got to party on my lower level range classes I seem t ofind groups in reasonable amounts of time.

    I am against level syncs. Especially when its so easy to PL. Both of which I am against, personally.
    I respect your comment, but I can't help but feel your point of view may be skewed a little bit by being a citizen of a blessed server. The rural ones who don't get advertisement for newcomers or stayers by popular websites have a harder time maintaining social groups. The end result typically a sieve effect, where casual players slowly migrate out of the game for various personal reasons and only hardcore completionists are left behind. The problem with our population is that not enough new players are added in mass to balance out the sifting effect. So we always just end up, at the end of the day, with the same circle of players who've already "been there, done that" for the most part. Doesn't mean that every single active member on Trabia is already 50 in every class that they'd like to level, but it doesn't bode well for new players if it takes a solid week of trying to put together an actual party to be able to do so. There just isn't enough people to participate and maintain a healthy early content spread.

    Granted, I'm not exactly sold on how level sync will work other than being a niche device of helping your friends out. In XI it was lovely because you had the motivation to continue to xp for merit points and expand your character more. This game lacks that, unless you count materia which is rather weak motivation in my book. You have to first have a lot of disposable gear to work with, and also the means of obtaining your goal is still better suited for a level 50ish party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kio View Post
    I respect your comment, but I can't help but feel your point of view may be skewed a little bit by being a citizen of a blessed server. The rural ones who don't get advertisement for newcomers or stayers by popular websites have a harder time maintaining social groups. The end result typically a sieve effect, where casual players slowly migrate out of the game for various personal reasons and only hardcore completionists are left behind. The problem with our population is that not enough new players are added in mass to balance out the sifting effect. So we always just end up, at the end of the day, with the same circle of players who've already "been there, done that" for the most part. Doesn't mean that every single active member on Trabia is already 50 in every class that they'd like to level, but it doesn't bode well for new players if it takes a solid week of trying to put together an actual party to be able to do so. There just isn't enough people to participate and maintain a healthy early content spread.

    Granted, I'm not exactly sold on how level sync will work other than being a niche device of helping your friends out. In XI it was lovely because you had the motivation to continue to xp for merit points and expand your character more. This game lacks that, unless you count materia which is rather weak motivation in my book. You have to first have a lot of disposable gear to work with, and also the means of obtaining your goal is still better suited for a level 50ish party.
    Whats all that got to do with the fact that someone was claiming everyone in the game had all classes to 50? That the only comment I was speaking out against. So, I am unclear why you believe server population has anything to do with some pressumtuous misconception that everyone has all classes to 50.
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