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  1. #51
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    It's already so easy to level... I mean you could argue that it's hard to find groups on some servers when you're in a weird level range, but it's not like level sync would really fix that.

    There's already so few useful places to camp at, why reduce that number even more with level sync?

    I think it's just one of those things that sounds great in theory but once you put it in the game it's just not as cool as you thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    Says the guy who got all his DOM/DOW classes 1-50 in just over 2 months.

    How much of that was power level and how much of that was solo?

    How about this, how much of that was from normal pick up exp PTs?

    When you are unemployeed for 5 months its easy. Furthermore it was a lot of shouting and actually taking the time to finding the players who wanted to level their class/jobs. Its called work and it seems like everyone but a few dont want to put the time in. Leves with the added bonus works well if you take the time to actually use them. It was much easier to get parties going before billing, but even after we lost players due to billing level sync isnt gonna help. This is a new game and is being relaunch as 2.0 next year. The only reason people cant level is A. due to billing and B) they dont want to take the time and work by shouting and actually looking for players who want to level, and than of course there is C) refuse or dont want to solo leves.

    Also I would like to add I dont mind SE and the devs useing things from FFXI to improve FFXIV, BUT if players want this game to be like FFXI after aby we dont need it. FFXIV needs improvements as well as content, what we dont need is level sync and the likes that pretty much destroyed FFXI. This game is way too young to even consider something like this, not at least for another 5 years
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow View Post
    No level sync

    We currently don't have many players at the moment which is why it's difficult to find a party. However there is solo content that allows you to level up~ even though it's a bit slower.

    You can solo until you find a group using the search function
    The community is divided. If anyone logs in to play and says "Hey I want to level my Glad, it's lv 36 anyone want to join?" Why shouldn't their lv 50 LS mates be able to sync down to match that person level so they can play the game together?

    Last I looked we are playing a MMO. Not a single player game.

    Not having level sync is making finding a EXP PT when ever desired a very irregular occurrence. Being able to create an EXP PT should be routine in an online multiplayer game.

    This game needs to unite the player base across the board, not present any new or retuning player a giant wall to over come just to be able to play.
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    Are you purposefully misquoting me with this here? I no where near said anything like that. nice try.
    Nope, just fixed that Sentence for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    If you want to turn this into a pissing match of opinions fine.
    That is what you started with your first Post, so you are mad someone giving it back?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    I never once was forced or was required to join a level sync PT to level or merit any of my several jobs in my 8+ years of FFXI.
    Lucky you. Does that make it a fact that noone had to join those stupid Jungle/Quifim Parties? No, it doesnt.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    Each and every time I joined any level sync PT as a job higher than the sync its self I did so voluntarily. Usually I joined not to advance myself, but to help advance LS mates who where otherwise having a difficult time leveling their jobs.
    Lucky again. Since your first Post you are trying to make your personal opinion a simple Fact, but its not. So no matter how you trying to look at it, you wont change the fact that certain People dont like Level Sync. And according to that: No, Level Sync is not a "must have".

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    So for once I'm asking people to stop thinking about themselves and think about potential new or returning players who find such a disparity in level gap that they soon quit.
    A Note to yourself? Seriously.. before you give an advice what other People should do, you seriously should do it yourself, no?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    Would a system that allowed high level players to temporarily match their level to other players to help them level up fill that void? YES!
    No. That is just your personal Opinion and like i said allready, it doesnt make it a fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    From a game play stand point tell me what is the difference as a level 30 character joining a level 20 sync grp?
    If you didnt learn this in your 8+ Years of FFXI, then you never understood Level Sync at all. A Level 30 Character wont have the posibility of using certain Abilities, since he is dowend to Level 20: Fact. So he wont know how to use certain Abilities in certain Situations until they appear and he have to relearn an allready leveld Job: Fact. Should i keep going?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    You have less skills to choose from, but you get similar style play and actually actively take part in.
    Which is limited, due the fact of Levelsyncing your Job down. If you are telling me you will learn the whole Class and it Skills while ranking it up to the Top in a lowlevelsync-Party, then you are blind.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    Instead currently we have a system that encourages power leveling. Where players invite and kick a high level person, who then kills all the rounded up mobs. 1-7 people take absolutely no part in playing thsi game during that time. They level 1-35 this way in a lot of cases.
    Guess why it took Place in this Game? NA-Forums were whining about how hard ranking is.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    So tell me a system that encourages players to actually team up and level the way developers intended us to isn't needed.
    Really i have to? The way it was before they added the "PL-System". Since then i never really had SP-Parties again, while i had tons of Parties before that.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    Also enlighten me, on how level sync with XIV mob strength and EXP mechanics would force anyone thats under level 40 to join a sync style party?

    We get a 10 level gap difference to obtain EXP.
    Monster strength is balanced to level, not mob type.
    There are in each camp location mobs that range from equal level to +9 meaning at a level 20 camp you can find mobs in groups from lv 20 - 29, at a lv 30 camp you'll find mobs lv 30-39 and so on and so on. There are no preferred leveling spots like in XI due to monster strength discrepancies.
    Did you ever read Producer Letters or did read the Roadmap of V2?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    So your turn. What do you propose to be done about the clear rift between current established players and new or returning players that may trickle in until ver 2.0 is released and then see a higher influx of players?
    Change it back to how it was, before SE added the PL-System due all the whining Posts on the NA-Forums. Simple.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post

    Last I looked we are playing a MMO. Not a single player game.
    You never checked, huh? FFXIV is a Game which was intended to support Casual/Soloplayer.
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  5. #55
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    Again, just because a mechanic worked in XI (arguable, I know plenty of people that just hated it), doesn't mean it'll transition perfectly to this game.

    I'm all for taking the good parts of XI and putting them in this game, but I just can't stand the crowd that keeps insisting, even more than a year after release, that every mechanic in this game has to be a copy/paste of XI. It's starting to get ridicolous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    Again, just because a mechanic worked in XI (arguable, I know plenty of people that just hated it), doesn't mean it'll transition perfectly to this game.

    I'm all for taking the good parts of XI and putting them in this game, but I just can't stand the crowd that keeps insisting, even more than a year after release, that every mechanic in this game has to be a copy/paste of XI. It's starting to get ridicolous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    You never checked, huh? FFXIV is a Game which was intended to support Casual/Soloplayer.
    I think that Yoshi changed this view imo. In his letter he still sais 'We also want to support the solo players', but more & more content is aimed for groups. And imo, that's the way he should go. We play a MMO for multiplayer, if you want to play solo, you better buy an RPG.

    But OT: I loved level sync, and I think it would be a good thing to help lower lvl players lvling up. At least we don't need to PL them anymore then XD we can just play together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finalfreak View Post
    I think that Yoshi changed this view imo. In his letter he still sais 'We also want to support the solo players', but more & more content is aimed for groups. And imo, that's the way he should go. We play an MMO for multiplayer, you can buy an RPG to play singleplayer.
    Yep, because SE is realizing that most People want Group-based Content over Casual Content. I never said i like the Casual/Solo thing, but it was how FFXIV was designed in first Place. If they going to change it way more into Groupcontent or hell Alliances! im all for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia View Post
    Why?
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    optimal sp/hr.
    10characters
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Yep, because SE is realizing that most People want Group-based Content over Casual Content. I never said i like the Casual/Solo thing, but it was how FFXIV was designed in first Place. If they going to change it way more into Groupcontent or hell Alliances! im all for it.
    I agree with you but they should at least leave some solo content this way we dont have to deal with what they did to FFXI in the last couple years. Than again some casual/soloer will complain, about something else.
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