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    Quote Originally Posted by Fira_Bug View Post
    I actually didnt stop playing xi till after abyssea broke it. I get how hard it is leveling, but they didn't implement that for a few years. And its not like they didnt abuse the power lvling for level syncing either. Just saying they need to wait till they do that. wait a long time.
    Personally I think the only real reasons why sync broke ffxi was because a) they added it too late into the game b) they added book burning too late
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    Book burning yes, but not level sync. It literally took them a week to find out about astral burning and all you end up with is players who know nothing about their job. PL'ing exists now yea, but let's not add an even bigger exploit just yet lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fira_Bug View Post
    PL'ing exists now yea, but let's not add an even bigger exploit just yet lol.
    Please explain to me how people would exploit level synch in this game?

    The concept of Astral burn is pretty much what powerleveling currently is in XIV, the only difference is the ammount of exp that can be gained at once is far lower due to the lack of "Linking" mechanics that XI had. I think it's a shame that something like linking mobs has been thrown out the window for seemingly that exact purpose.

    So while Astral burns sucked, I don't see how adding level synch could do any worse than the current game model as to get a proper train going you would need a large field of agro mobs and the abillity to survive them, without linking mechanics ala XI a large enough train would be impossible to make.

    XIV allready has a terrible leveling curve I'd rather be able to party normally with my friends then feel pressured to PL them because I have nothing in their level range.
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    yea we need level sync asap because pling everyone to 50 is just getting stupid and prob not be long till SE fixes that. This should of been in the game from lunch. SE dude i no you guys are very busy but can you take a little bit of you're time and give level sync asap maybe in 1.21 would be nice thanks. i spent 8 days looking for a party on gld whcih ended up being a PL party got 10 levels witch is awesome but i'm not learning how to play my job or even playing the game it's stupid.

    Please SE bring it back asap
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    I disagree, there is no need for level sync. FFXIV was made to solo as well as form parties. If you want to level go do leves.

    The issue is that players are either at cap or they are crafting, (im sure PLing didnt help either). The fact is players wanted a game that is more solo friendly, now you got, it now you want to complain and not use it. It is also way to earlier in this game for a level sync, furthuremore 2.0 isnt even out yet. Before anything like a level sync is even considered this game needs to be out for at least 5 years there is no reason for it, considering FFXIV is so solo friendly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
    I disagree, there is no need for level sync. FFXIV was made to solo as well as form parties. If you want to level go do leves.

    The issue is that players are either at cap or they are crafting, (im sure PLing didnt help either). The fact is players wanted a game that is more solo friendly, now you got, it now you want to complain and not use it. It is also way to earlier in this game for a level sync, furthuremore 2.0 isnt even out yet. Before anything like a level sync is even considered this game needs to be out for at least 5 years there is no reason for it, considering FFXIV is so solo friendly.

    Says the guy who got all his DOM/DOW classes 1-50 in just over 2 months.

    How much of that was power level and how much of that was solo?

    How about this, how much of that was from normal pick up exp PTs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee View Post
    Says the guy who got all his DOM/DOW classes 1-50 in just over 2 months.

    How much of that was power level and how much of that was solo?

    How about this, how much of that was from normal pick up exp PTs?

    When you are unemployeed for 5 months its easy. Furthermore it was a lot of shouting and actually taking the time to finding the players who wanted to level their class/jobs. Its called work and it seems like everyone but a few dont want to put the time in. Leves with the added bonus works well if you take the time to actually use them. It was much easier to get parties going before billing, but even after we lost players due to billing level sync isnt gonna help. This is a new game and is being relaunch as 2.0 next year. The only reason people cant level is A. due to billing and B) they dont want to take the time and work by shouting and actually looking for players who want to level, and than of course there is C) refuse or dont want to solo leves.

    Also I would like to add I dont mind SE and the devs useing things from FFXI to improve FFXIV, BUT if players want this game to be like FFXI after aby we dont need it. FFXIV needs improvements as well as content, what we dont need is level sync and the likes that pretty much destroyed FFXI. This game is way too young to even consider something like this, not at least for another 5 years
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    Two of my friends who had retired in the early months after the game's initial release tried to come back to the game. They both had really high hopes and were very energized over the idea of rejoining the community and even were ok with paying the subscription fees.
    They both quit again after a week of playing because neither could find anyone in the low level ranges to form a party anymore. Sort of a product of low server population in addition to everyone being max level in basically everything by this point in time.

    Sure, we could have exploited the claim system to power level them up, but some people play a MMO for the journey not necessarily the numbers. And if you can't participate with your friends (or make new ones) through out all aspects of the game, what is the point of playing a social game at all? I know that the dev team has promised us a level sync system in 2.0, so I just wanted to highlight the importance of it if they expect to to have capped people and new or returning people coincide merrily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kio View Post
    Sort of a product of low server population in addition to everyone being max level in basically everything by this point in time.
    I cal shenanigens, not everyone has all clases to 50. Most don't even have most classes to 50 .The server population part, though, I can agree with. I quess I am lucky on besaid, as we have enough of a population that I stil see people registred on search or shouting for 15-20 level range groups. So far, everytime I got to party on my lower level range classes I seem t ofind groups in reasonable amounts of time.

    I am against level syncs. Especially when its so easy to PL. Both of which I am against, personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kio View Post
    Two of my friends who had retired in the early months after the game's initial release tried to come back to the game. They both had really high hopes and were very energized over the idea of rejoining the community and even were ok with paying the subscription fees.
    They both quit again after a week of playing because neither could find anyone in the low level ranges to form a party anymore. Sort of a product of low server population in addition to everyone being max level in basically everything by this point in time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    I cal shenanigens, not everyone has all clases to 50. Most don't even have most classes to 50 .The server population part, though, I can agree with. I quess I am lucky on besaid, as we have enough of a population that I stil see people registred on search or shouting for 15-20 level range groups. So far, everytime I got to party on my lower level range classes I seem t ofind groups in reasonable amounts of time.

    I am against level syncs. Especially when its so easy to PL. Both of which I am against, personally.
    It's Kio's scenario thats exactly what I'm talking about. These players arrive or return to a environment where they are the odd man out. They then leave soon there after because they just can't stomach leveling any of thier classes which are low level due to such a shallow selection of other players of a similar level.

    Coglin, you might be correct that most people don't have everything @ 50. I don't. I still have Mar @ 37 Pug 39 and Conj 47.
    I have a few LS mates that have a few class scattered around in the 20's a few in the 30's level range. But this is the kicker; Most of the levels are out of PT range so between 6 people we might have something like this:
    lv 19 24 29 32 33 37.
    Under XIV rules you could take the 19-29 and make a PT (hope the 29 doesn't level before the 19!) then the 32-37 people could form up and EXP.

    But Wouldn't it be nice if you could just all sync to 19 and play together? Isn't that what community is about?

    This is a game, We are meant to have fun and play together.

    between the low populations and the disparity in level ranges it keeps people divided for too long of a time.

    Level Sync is a good system to unite the player base.
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