Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
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You're correct about Bard not touching them without it, Bard could probably due with a small buff or maybe having it added. However, I've maintained throughout this entire thread I don't think BOTH ranged should get the debuff, but I'm open to another class getting it. Machinist however, is FAR above Ninja. And these are averages over all parses, and not every single Machinist ever has a Dragoon. Machinist would fall behind Dragoon without it, but likely still be ahead of both Ninja and Red Mage. Ninja is the support, and the Slashing debuff is part of it's support. Piercing debuff is part of it's support. Bard and Machinist have plenty of support skills. Also, 15s will net you at least 6 casts, probably 7, more if you have Ley Lines or decent SS or use your oGCDs for Smn, but that's semantics. Lastly, fine, slashing debuff is not a core part of Paladin DPS. It's added bonus.

And that's kind of silly logic, because cast bars take just as long as GCD skills. Black mages don't have oGCD skills, that's true, but Smn does. And Black Mage hits significantly harder during any given GCD than any other class, so more efficiency per cast, thus greater benefit from the 4-5 casts under Trick. And Trick Attack stacks with any other damage up buff, i.e. Contagion. And that isn't the point, I only used 3 casters because it was quicker and easier to type than a full party comp. Swap 3 casters with literally any party comp other than Drg, phys rang x2. 15% crit is a significantly smaller buff than flat out 10% dps. It's a good buff, don't get me wrong, but it's not as good as Trick Attack.