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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by GunksFoy View Post
    It's not a core part of their damage though. That's like saying Contagion is a core part of a Black Mages damage. It is a core part of Dragoon's damage, but it is additional damage for a bard or machinist. They are support jobs. And if Fflogs is to be believed, Machinists already outdps Dragoons at virtually every percentile, so I don't think a support job needs any more pDPS.
    ... That's silly logic, and only creates the meta lock already established. Contagion has a 60s CD, lasts only 15s and benefits casters, healers and PLD's Holy Spirit. Bear in mind, all five potential candidates have cast bars, thus will only benefit from roughly five casts over Contagion's duration. Disembowel has 100% uptime. They are not remotely comparable. Support doesn't mean gimp their DPS lest we apply that same logic to other jobs. In fact, if we're going with the logic support jobs don't need more pDPS, why does Ninja have slashing? It's the melee support equivalent yet... isn't reliant on another job for nearly 300 DPS. Those Machinists all have Dragoons, which is the whole point. In terms of personal or raid dps, neither Bard nor Machinist will touch Ninja or Dragoon unless they have piercing.

    While I still think they should remove Piercing or have more than one job apply. If they did simply opt to give it to physical ranged, all that changes is people are more willing to sub out Dragoon for Monk or Samurai. And Bard/Machinist players aren't gimped because a static decided to recruit something besides Dragoon.

    Quote Originally Posted by GunksFoy View Post
    3 Casters and a Dragoon, their utility and rDPS is cut significantly.
    Not by as much as you may think. Trick Attack benefits casters significantly less due to cast bars whereas Litany is a straight Crit buff that will stack with Chain Stratagem. Regardless, this is a bit disingenuous as you'll hardly see double casters let alone triple.
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    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 04-13-2018 at 09:49 AM.