helped my SO with sorting inventory today. FFIV needs better inventory management

[Okamimaru]

Sorry but this sounds like a hoarding issue... you could have a million free spaces to store stuff and everything could have a separate icon for each individual item but if you fill up even half that space youll still have trouble finding items... I'm leveling botanist and culinarian currently and I'm not really having issues with storage myself... only hq items get saved everything else gets sold to npcs... I think you need a nice LONG break from this game since everything about it seems to get you upset.

[LeoLupinos]

I'm seeing a lot of Battle focused people, that don't need space, answering this as everyone don't need space. Please, if you don't have max level craft, this is not your thread, go away, you don't need space and to bother with copy paste icons.

Inventory is clunky. We could have Tabs, for currency, craft materials, itens, unified retainers, as a team, managing the unified inventory and marquet. We could acces some retainer functions remotely, such as sending them to ventures remotely, while the retainer send the reward from the venture to retainer inventory. Squadrom also remotely, really, we comunicate with the scions remotely and we can't order retainer to venture or squadrom to training or missions? It's a lot of "go there and go there and go there" with a lot of loading screens and focus lose just to do a little thing every hour. Everything should be done with practicality.

[Sigma-Astra]

I'm seeing a lot of Battle focused people, that don't need space, answering this as everyone don't need space. Please, if you don't have max level craft, this is not your thread, go away, you don't need space and to bother with copy paste icons.

Telling people to go away because you don't like some of their opinions is just silly and actually stifling debate and discussion. That's called an "echo chamber" and those are the worst types of environments that go absolutely no where fast. It doesn't matter whether a person has maxed level crafters or not, that shouldn't stop them from weighing in on something they feel passionate about or want to discuss what the OP is saying. You argue that everything should be done with practically...well, it's not exactly practical to tell people to go away because you don't like what they're saying, that's kind of childish, no offense.

It's also not very practical from a design standpoint to make a different icon for every little type of nonsense either.

[Vstarstruck]

Telling people to go away because you don't like some of their opinions is just silly

Just like what you did?
pot meet kettle

I'm seeing a lot of Battle focused people, that don't need space, answering this as everyone don't need space. Please, if you don't have max level craft, this is not your thread, go away, you don't need space and to bother with copy paste icons.

Inventory is clunky. We could have Tabs, for currency, craft materials, itens, unified retainers, as a team, managing the unified inventory and marquet. We could acces some retainer functions remotely, such as sending them to ventures remotely, while the retainer send the reward from the venture to retainer inventory. Squadrom also remotely, really, we comunicate with the scions remotely and we can't order retainer to venture or squadrom to training or missions? It's a lot of "go there and go there and go there" with a lot of loading screens and focus lose just to do a little thing every hour. Everything should be done with practicality.

I am personally confused how no one really read what I had to say. it is like they are posting based on the title alone, very infuriating.

[LastFireAce]

Git Gud lol is really no the hard to handle invitory in XIV, only reason why I may be full at time because I been lazy to throw my glam to the glam toilet

[Tranquilmelody7]

I definetly agree that player and retainer inventories need additional quality of life features and options, but the amount of space we actually have for items is fine.

FF14 is easily one of the best MMOs in regards to storage space, albeit clunky in regards to the interface.

[NephthysVasudan]

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Making assumptions is just as bad....you should learn to pay attention.

[Sigma-Astra]

Just like what you did?
pot meet kettle


I am personally confused how no one really read what I had to say. it is like they are posting based on the title alone, very infuriating.

Well...that wasn't anywhere near what I had said. So, probably a good idea to not chastise other people for not reading when you kinda don't.

[Vhailor]

Now first off I do agree my SO needs better inventory management on their end. However I found out by experience SE needs to do more work on their end as well.

I agree, but I think FFXIV is closer than your post made out. The two key changes I'd like to see are:

(1) An addition to the item tool-tip indicating where the item comes from (for example, Gathering - Miner - Timed Node; Gathering - Botanist - Regular Node; Vendor - Cost; etc.);
(2) A true, proper Glamour Log.

The remaining issues are, in my estimation, largely due to human error. I'd argue, for example, that items like Rock Salt aren't an issue in and of themselves - they only become an issue when people hang on to such items. I've seen this arise frequently with my SO, who also struggles with inventory maintenance. Whenever I delve into her account to assist with organization, I immediately discard dozens of items that are either outdated (upgrade items for ARR gear, for example), easily reacquired (anything that can be purchased for relatively trivial amounts of currency; gathered items; etc), or weren't worth keeping for some other random reason. Invariably, this resolves 80% of her inventory bloat.

I've seen similar stories here on the forums, crafters who had multiple Retainers devoted to ingredients that they could go out and re-gather easily, for example. Having taken all DoH jobs to level 70, concurrently, with no inventory issues, I can't help but shake my head at the chaos this sort of hoarding inflicts.

Now, that said, I do recognize that people who very much enjoy Glamouring need more space. The two Glamour systems currently available are too cumbersome and restrictive, and it guarantees inventory struggles regardless of how careful a player is. I also realize that not everyone has a two-monitor setup with Garland Tools available on the second screen for reference. Hence, the item tool-tip addition, which would at least offer some at-a-glance information. Beyond that, though, I really don't think SE should devote resources toward solving the self-inflicted inventory woes of disorganized players with hoarding tendencies.

[Vstarstruck]

I agree, but I think FFXIV is closer than your post made out. The two key changes I'd like to see are:

(1) An addition to the item tool-tip indicating where the item comes from (for example, Gathering - Miner - Timed Node; Gathering - Botanist - Regular Node; Vendor - Cost; etc.);
(2) A true, proper Glamour Log.

The remaining issues are, in my estimation, largely due to human error. I'd argue, for example, that items like Rock Salt aren't an issue in and of themselves - they only become an issue when people hang on to such items. I've seen this arise frequently with my SO, who also struggles with inventory maintenance. Whenever I delve into her account to assist with organization, I immediately discard dozens of items that are either outdated (upgrade items for ARR gear, for example), easily reacquired (anything that can be purchased for relatively trivial amounts of currency; gathered items; etc), or weren't worth keeping for some other random reason. Invariably, this resolves 80% of her inventory bloat.

I've seen similar stories here on the forums, crafters who had multiple Retainers devoted to ingredients that they could go out and re-gather easily, for example. Having taken all DoH jobs to level 70, concurrently, with no inventory issues, I can't help but shake my head at the chaos this sort of hoarding inflicts.

Now, that said, I do recognize that people who very much enjoy Glamouring need more space. The two Glamour systems currently available are too cumbersome and restrictive, and it guarantees inventory struggles regardless of how careful a player is. I also realize that not everyone has a two-monitor setup with Garland Tools available on the second screen for reference. Hence, the item tool-tip addition, which would at least offer some at-a-glance information. Beyond that, though, I really don't think SE should devote resources toward solving the self-inflicted inventory woes of disorganized players with hoarding tendencies.

I realize this, again my point is level 70 gear, heck, 51 +? HW+ crafts, should not be using anything that streams down to a 5 gil NPC material. This is the reason people have these problems, because of the over unnecessary items crafts do take.

The second big issue that I was trying to point out is item management of the retainers. It is super slow going from retainer to retainer, taking such a long time just to pull all the currency type items and put them in one spot, so my SO stops putting the same thing in 3-5 different places.

Why is moving items from retainer to retainer so hard?
For your 1,i'd take anything to be able see at a quick glance what the item is, and not thinking it is 5 different split stacks of something. The copy and paste of icon pictures is overwhelming in this game.