helped my SO with sorting inventory today. FFIV needs better inventory management

[Vstarstruck]

Now first off I do agree my SO needs better inventory management on their end. However I found out by experience SE needs to do more work on their end as well.

Number of items vs number of space
We need a better ratio here. This means add more space or start removing items. There is a lot of repetitive items, currency in inventory that does not need to be there.

I spent 2 hours straight after my SO claimed they where working on it as I slept (personally I did not see much but whatever, maybe it was a bigger mess before I got to see it) I spent SO MUCH time, trying to open like 6 different retainers and move all currency type items to one retainer.

There is no reason what so ever this should take that long. It reflects a major flaw in the game, and biggest here is, stop putting currency in our inventory slots. It was madding, I had to open 3 different retainers just to stack cracked clusters, relic currencies and other crap it was overwhelming.

recycled icons
This was driving me NUTS I couldn't tell what was what like 5 different items using the salt icon. I found rock salt and tossed it right then in there, it was so madding. Hours after, as I write this I began thinking. Why are current synths even USE materials 1-5 gil items sold by npcs? It is crazy, how much space, item wise 1 thing takes to make

SE can easily change how many item these synths take. In my view when you have like .. idk.. 100 unique items only having 10 different icons, that should tell you RIGHT THERE, there is too many items in this game.

Me personally I have 1600 lockbocks from diadem 3.0 ii.. i.. I just can't.. dealing with that inventory bloat would dive me nuts. IF SE is really trying to make an effort to better our inventory situation they could of made lockboxes a currency. Did they ever thought of this? Why in the heck do we have lockbox rain when they KNOW this game has inventory space problems? (I/e 999 update/ Chobobo bag)

Now for the retainers.. as far as I know most games have a bank where I can just open different tabs and easily move items across one to the next? Why couldn't I move items from retainer 3 to retainer 1 directly? The inventory management of this game is really poor, hasn't people complained about this before? Why is it still a problem given this is the 3rd expansion? You think by now these different currencies be in a currency tab at lest?

The thing is even after my 2 hours of sorting and showing what to get rid of, it is STILL NOT done. My SO worked on sorting inventory here and there across several days. There is simply too much time wasted trying to play this game because poor inventory management tools, too much items in general, and not enough space.

I can't believe they renewed for 6 more moths with overpaying for these retainers UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ps retainers cost too much money)

[Kleeya]

While i can see how players being mainly crafters might need a lot of space, you are kinda too negative here. It is not like you have only 30 inventory places to start with and have to put 15 euros in the cash shop to unlock 10 more, while being limited to stack a maximum of 10 items. I am not saying that there isn't some issues, but FF14's inventory is by far the best i have seen in all the mmos i have tried, even wow's one can't compare to it. You couldn't believe how you will get way less space for a way more expensive price on some so-called "free to play" games. I still remember being impressed by how many free places i did got when unlocking my first two retainers.

Are you sure you dont keep too much useless things ? Not being that much into crafting two retainers are plenty enough for me, even by keeping outdated currencies (like these coeurlregina's horns, it is not like they will add new items for them...). Today taking two minutes to look at my retainer's inventorys i was like "why do i keep these mogs palace of the dead skins ? Oh i remember, the price was too low when i dropped them, maybe it is a good time to do it now with people being all in eureka, prices sure must have gone up", and here you go, i dont have to worry about free space for a while.

[Tsubaki75]

Are you sure you dont keep too much useless things ?

^^^ This, i don't know what level crafting is being done but once you are a certain ilvl even without melds you can stop hording low lvl items. Anything that can be bought from a npc, gathered in a cpl minutes, or bought for pennies on the mb shouldn't be stored. Also I'm willing to bet that there are unneeded hq items taking up space as well. The only hq matts i store are for endgame crafting, everything else is nq and with the stack size being 999 now it really cuts down on needed space.

[Sigma-Astra]

Not to be mean here, but it doesn't take a whole lot of effort to read what the item is before you trash it, even if they re-use the same icon and recycled icons isn't even an unheard of thing. There are plenty of other MMO's, as well as single player games like JRPG's, that re-use certain icons. I didn't think that was an end of the world matter?

I mean, you look at the Heavensward totems for EX trials for example. They all use the same box icon...it takes like two seconds to read the name of what they are, and then discard or turn them into weapons/mount as you see fit. I don't think that is a legitimate concern for SE as it just sounds like a personal annoyance to you. If an item or multiple items that are being the same icon upsets you that badly, then I don't recommend that you play any of the Tales series, Persona, some of the other Final Fantasy games, Y's VIII, OdinSphere (mostly just the spell potions), etc because you'll probably rage.

[Vstarstruck]

Not to be mean here, but it doesn't take a whole lot of effort to read what the item is before you trash it, even if they re-use the same icon and recycled icons isn't even an unheard of thing. There are plenty of other MMO's, as well as single player games like JRPG's, that re-use certain icons. I didn't think that was an end of the world matter?

Not to the degree FFXIV does it, no. 5-10 items should not be using the same icon, esp when 2 or 3 items of the same icon is going in a synth. It is very hard to see when so many items are copy and pasted.

Are you sure you dont keep too much useless things ?

Did you read what I said at all? I was tossing and telling my SO what can be tossed what to be put in glam dresser and such. I should not spend 2 + hours doing so because I can't move items retainer to retainer directly. it was very hard to move all the currencies to one retainer for example. I wanted do that so my SO can see easier what needs to be kept and toss (and honestly I do not know what 70% of the items even are. I would ask do you need this? what is it for? "I don't know" "can you toss it then?"

However that is no excuse to overbloat your game with items. I am the one giving inventory advice, and even with that, I still find turning in the lockboxes frightening. I do not want to do it, it takes too much time, I do not like losing out on a mount because of issues like this , but it is not worth the frustration, so 1600+ lockboxes sit till SE does better to address this issue.

^^^ This, i don't know what level crafting is being done but once you are a certain ilvl even without melds you can stop hording low lvl items.

I even said I tossed out my SO's items that are bought from vendor, but level 70 rafts shouldn't even need materials that costs 5 gil from a npc, all that shows is intentionally bloating inventory for no reason.

Yo know current level 70 items that need natron (however it is spelled) and that takes rock salt? just.. why??? it shouldn't be doing that when inventory issues are this severe.
the fact they sell you 7 extra retainers should be another hint, they do it on purpose so make you spend more.

[Sigma-Astra]

Not to the degree FFXIV does it, no. 5-10 items should not be using the same icon, esp when 2 or 3 items of the same icon is going in a synth. It is very hard to see when so many items are copy and pasted.

To the degree that FFXIV does? I'm pretty sure Persona 4 has gotten it beat there with 5-10 items being the same icon...

Now, you're just being silly and hyperbolizing things that don't need the extra drama.

[Vstarstruck]

To the degree that FFXIV does? I'm pretty sure Persona 4 has gotten it beat there with 5-10 items being the same icon...

Now, you're just being silly and hyperbolizing things that don't need the extra drama.

Yes, I know ffxiv is worse then this, what is your point? that is not how FFXIV lists items, you can tell what it is, those icons is just for telling you it is a potion. If we do this shallow of a comparison, look at how many bottle icons ffxiv has, and those potions, some can heal hp, some heal status effects, some are materials for crafting this, sorry just because you do not see a major flaw in FFXIV, does not mean what I say is "hyperbolizing", the only drama I see, is the drama you are trying to make, trying to compare apples to oranges.

[NephthysVasudan]

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Why does this thread sound like your blaming SE for being messy and hoarding your goods?

Because that's what it sounds like here.

The only thing in this whole mess that actually makes sense is being able to move retainer to retainer inventory management wise...sure...that's nice.

But they did give us a choco saddlebag....and 999 stacks...can't complain honestly.

Sounds like you need to do a better job managing your inventory.

That and all I need to do is mouse over to identify items if an icon doesn't make sense. (PS4 users however may not have that easy..ill admit that)

Thanks to recent changes - I've got an abundance of space.

[Sigma-Astra]

...Those are not just "potions" nor are they just "healing items". Before you use the terms "shallow comparison", I'd suggest actually looking at other games because honestly, you just showed that you haven't the faintest clue about what you're talking about here and if anything is shallow, it's your entire argument since you're using an idiom that has no weight or bearing on the conversation. You complained that XIV uses 5-10 items with the same icon, I gave you a game that recycles the same icon for multiple items way worse than what I'd consider XIV's sin to be.

But, clearly it definitely flew way over your head.

[Granyala]

Pages and split retainer inventories are annoying, having to click through menus to access your retainers sucks a bit.

As for the inventory itself: never had much problems. Sure they force you to filter and sell stuff you don't need but inventory management is basically what you make of it.