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  1. #31
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    Stormfur's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genz View Post
    And the fetishism on rewards needs to disappear. Bigger rewards doesn't make the content better, so if you think you need to put tomestones on blitzball, something is wrong.
    Watch, blitzball will be squadrons with swimming and the reward will be kelpie.
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    "We want bunny suits for guys!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Ishgard housing!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Viera!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Cloud's motorcycle!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Blue Mage!"-- OK! ✅
    "We want the ability to earn past Feast rewards!" - HAHA no that's sacred.

  2. #32
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    Daiki Sejuro
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    They can make raids hard without nerfing healers like someone said make these aoes place healing debuffs or cause dots, with how healing is now those are he main things I see healers fall at which is dot dmg, and the occasional healing debuff...

    You can also have some raids have a boss that removes shields from the raid or disables certain actions by tanks like a CD maybe but the point is there are other way to go about this then nerfing healers
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    Go on. I'd like to know why it wouldn't work well with MMO setting. You seem to have the same idea as Yoshida in this respect, while I'm completely puzzled as to why, so go ahead and explain what part of a multiplayer game is not fit for an MMO game.
    *deep breath*

    This is a MMO, the underlying mechanics are that of a turn-based MMORPG in "server ticks" of about 3 seconds. Because of latency in North America, you can have players anywhere from 6ms in California to 500ms in Australia and Russia. Only the underlying turned-based mechanics allow such players to play together and not have the person with the fastest connection wipe the floor with everyone else. This is why action MMORPG's just do not work in North America and Europe, they only work in Japan and Korea.

    Now, for Blitzball, or any other sport game, requires a real-time mechanic that can't be cheesed by the person with the fastest connection. So you would literately have players pointing to places on the field and pick "move,dribble, pass (to player), shoot (goal)" etc, and you would need whatever number of people are required to play the game. In FFX there were also stat boost/debuffs. Realistically FFX's Blitzball was also just turn-based. It was not in any way like the other sports games.

    So the closest you will get to anything would be slower than the PvP games, and not as a fun as a result unless it was "solo", a la the squadrons. So between actions, you'd be allowed to move, but as soon as someone has the ball, or tries to intercept it, there would have to be some QTE for the success/fail action.

    Like I don't realistically see any way of pulling this off and it being fun, regardless of what you think the value of Blitzball is itself. Look at the Triple Triad, Lord of Verminion and the Chocobo Racing. They are completely abandoned except when the tournaments happen, and even then people just throw them to get the rewards.

    The "call a play" coach mechanic is easier to pull off, and not requiring assembling enough players to play, it could be done as 1-on-1, so whoever has the ball, you get a QTE of "pass/shoot/dribble" and that pretty much makes it work like it did in FFX. But that's not really much fun either. Ideally you get to pick other players who signed up (eg the duty queue), they get their team bathing suit, the players pick a number, and then those actual players initially get dropped into random teams until those with the highest skill get moved to an actual tournament ladder. If the players withdraw from the duty finder, they just get replaced by someone else in the same bracket.

    But this is going to be something that takes a long time, you're not going to play a match and then logoff. If your "team" never logs on again, then what? Start over? What if your new team sucks? What if you get d/c'd?

    Like "Venture" systems just result in you having nothing to actually do with the underlying game, and it's the easiest thing the developers can put in (like the squadron missions) and just RNG the result. But that's an entirely RNG based gameplay, it's not skill.

    Hence, my point of I don't see any kind of "realtime" sport being viable here. It would have to be all single-rounds, not tournaments, and if you just PUG it, you stand no chance of actually getting anywhere since people could form "static" teams.

    Anyway. I digress, I don't think Yoshi-P wants to spend development time on a full sports game within a MMORPG that people already barely play the PvP part of, and doesn't operate on game mechanics already in the game. So any implementation of it would likely end up more like the Squadron missions than anything else.
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  4. #34
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    we’re currently working on the next installation of “Rival Wings,” which was received well previously
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    Why do people hate instant death mechs? I mean I think that's the best way to make people wake up and get better. I mean old arcade games did this? Why is it now such a bad thing? I ask this cause healing is OP in XIV, and unless you never out gear content like ultimate Ba. Then you'll always have an OP healer so wouldn't instant death mechs balance this out? I'm generally asking I'm not being mean or trying to be disrespectful :C
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    Player Okamimaru's Avatar
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    More bosses need to inflict supernation (sp?) stacks... so the more you get hit the harder the fight gets until you wipe...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ko_ View Post
    Why do people hate instant death mechs? I mean I think that's the best way to make people wake up and get better. I mean old arcade games did this? Why is it now such a bad thing? I ask this cause healing is OP in XIV, and unless you never out gear content like ultimate Ba. Then you'll always have an OP healer so wouldn't instant death mechs balance this out? I'm generally asking I'm not being mean or trying to be disrespectful :C
    Never really thought they were a bad thing either. They're a good reason to "git gud" so to speak because there's no choice in the matter.
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  8. #38
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    Can't wait for a new RW map where everyone plays for a mount, then they never play it again. Well received... /s
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jxnibbles View Post
    Can't wait for a new RW map where everyone plays for a mount, then they never play it again. Well received... /s
    Yeah, I think they often mistake the immediate flurry of activity whenever new content opens as "they must like it" when it's more like "we need to get our things before it dies next week". There needs to be a serious rework of how PvP works reward wise, as well as addressing the bot problem.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 04-08-2018 at 11:13 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

  10. #40
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    Holy hell in a handbasket, all of of Yoshi's comments about PVP are downright embarrassing to read.

    I respect the rest of his answers, but I don't see how he can feel PVP is anything but a hot mess right now.

    I don't see how tournaments would ever work when there is plenty of 'foul play' occurring as is.
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