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  1. #31
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerdessence View Post
    I request that since scaling up in difficulty is an option, let scaling down also be an option. I don't care if I get nothing for my troubles but finishing the quest.

    I just want to see the story in its entirety, hence Story Mode. A far easier version of the dungeons that can be completed by any group of any size, from 1-8. Watching the story on YouTube is pretty impersonal, so this would be great.

    This would also reduce anxiety for introverted or less-skilled players (or dirty roleplayers like me). We all pay to play this game for different reasons and I think those reasons should be respected so we can all feel comfortable and happy.

    Thank you for your time.
    So basically "I already did the game, but missed the context of pretty much everything" right? Sounds reasonable as long as you've completed it and aren't expecting experience/items/rewards for it. (Nier:Automata let you skip the cutscenes, AND the gameplay).


    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    What story can you not complete now? Honest question. If there's some story related quest you can't do, a group can likely be arranged to help you through it. That's been done many times before.

    But no, the game doesn't need solo mode "story" dungeons when it's already easy to get groups to complete things like that.
    I'd rather there not be a "solo completion" option (where you basically are invincible, immune to all debuffs, and enrage timers are off.) You can undersize party and complete Titan, Garuda and Ifirit Extreme at level 70 now. Some people said they can solo Coil Turn 5. As there is storyline attached to Coil, there is an incentive to see the story since it leads into Stormblood, but doesn't necessarily mean that the content should be tuned down to complete it. Rather Coil, Alexander Savage (or incomplete normal), and the Extreme primals from the previous major patches should go into their own "completion roulette", where if someone who hasn't completed it selects it for a PUG, it only sets them up with 7 other players who have completed it. According to minions and mounts that players have, only 5% of the players complete this content when it's new, and 30% complete it after the next major patch (presumably due to undersized party making some of it a pushover.)
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhaerron View Post
    Soon you people are going to want a button that instantly kills the selected target >.>
    Even that would be too difficult for some people since it involves pressing a button.
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  3. #33
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    X'lota Qi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerdessence View Post
    We all pay to play this game for different reasons and I think those reasons should be respected so we can all feel comfortable and happy.
    No, there are reasons that are totally invalid that should not be respected. However, wanting to enjoy the story is not invalid, but you still have to play the game as it was meant to be played. When you choose to play this game you have to respect the dev's intentions. If you totally remove the requirement for a group from all content you utterly decimate the premise of this being a social game. I don't play FPSs and then demand it play more like a third person RPG.

    I'm not against there being easier modes, that maybe require only 2 or 3. Understand, at least from what I've seen so far, there is a certain amount of unique story behind each difficulty level. Some of it is just "Oh noes! They've summoned Ifrit again!", but Hard dungeons seem to have different stories from their normal counterparts. I have heard, (but haven't tried it) you can play some dungeons unsynced, but I imagine to play those solo you would need to out level it and there may be some mechanics that are impossible.

    Most of the people I have encountered in mmos are introverts, and playing a fictional character let's work out some issues. Role playing is primarily a social activity. Solo RPGs are great but most can't be considered legitimate role play.
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  4. #34
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    Dungeons being able to be cleared by any party comp of one tank one healer and 2 dps is not "easy" it's a sign of good design. Would you like it if you were excluded from dungeon runs becuase of your class?
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Even that would be too difficult for some people since it involves pressing a button.
    Most dps can't press a button. ever seen a raid roullete queue try to pop? it takes at least 3 fails to get in.
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  6. #36
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    Are you kidding me? All the story stuff has already been gutting into easy mode.

    I remember the days when four man dungeons actually took a little thought at release, and nowadays everything is face roll. If you can't bother with the stuff we have, you must want the game to be a movie that you just watch, cause everything is already easy enough.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerdessence View Post
    This would also reduce anxiety for introverted or less-skilled players (or dirty roleplayers like me).
    If someone isn't skilled enough to do story mode dungeons in their current state then there is something wrong with them, not the game. The story-mode stuff is far from being tuned for very skilled players. It's tuned for average skill levels.

    Being a roleplayer doesn't automatically mean you are unable to play the pve or pvp aspects of the game. I know several people who do all three just fine.

    You seem to be basically asking for a solo story mode...which makes me wonder why are you playing a mmo?
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Even that would be too difficult for some people since it involves pressing a button.
    You're not wrong. I've had more than one wipe in Leviathan because no one wanted to hit that darn button.
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    You are the living proof of the toxicity I am talking about.

  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    I don't think you need an easy mode....use party finder if you need help. There are plenty of understanding people out there if you need help clearing content while avoiding the random roulette.

    Like it or not...the bulk of this game is Multiplayer centric.
    I don't know about the bulk of it. There is a lot of solo content and you can't even do solo duties with a group. I was grouped with my son and we had the same quest and had to do the same solo duty, but we had to break up the party and do them separately.That was something I loved about SWTOR, you could play most content in a group. The downside is that there was some inconsistency on how that was handled. Not that the solo content is hard, but if you have somebody you like to play with it's nice when you can stay with them.
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  10. #40
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    Lunataria Carreing
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    I don't see what the harm in this is. I really don't. I would have liked that too as with a slow internet connection, dungeons are very difficult towards the end of the story line with all the AOE by the ton. And what is harming you personally? Nothing. You could still continue to play just like you always have. Options are just that, options. MMO Massive Multiplayer Online..nowhere does it say MMOMAG (Massive Multiplayer Online Must Always Group) Give people options. Don't like it? Don't do it that way. It was brought up as a request for options, not a demand to change the whole game.
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