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    ARR S ranks NEED to be made harder!

    I experimented today with a level 50 to try an S rank. It died in less than 5 seconds due to the overwhelming number of level 70s attacking at once and I got only 10 allied seals despite me hitting it from the start.

    They need to be made harder. I know they're there for level 50s but here's the reality, level 50s aren't getting any or very little benefit and the level 70s aren't giving them a chance. Most the time it's only level 70s showing up to them.

    I don't know how much more I can emphasize the necessity for harder S rank fights. There's no point in keeping them easy when lower levels aren't even bothering to show up and would rather hit level 70 first.
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    So party up with the level 70's.

    If you're in a party, you get party credit as long as you get 1 hit in.

    When I first started doings hunts (around 4.1-4.2 ish) I was level 50 partying up with 70s and getting full credit. Party Finder if it's a PF server or ask for an invite.

    Just clarifying, I'm not against the idea. I personally would love if ARR and SB hunts got beefed up, but if the issue is not getting enough credit for full rewards, that's what partying is for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squintina View Post
    So party up with the level 70's.

    If you're in a party, you get party credit as long as you get 1 hit in.

    When I first started doings hunts (around 4.1-4.2 ish) I was level 50 partying up with 70s and getting full credit. Party Finder if it's a PF server or ask for an invite.

    Just clarifying, I'm not against the idea. I personally would love if ARR and SB hunts got beefed up, but if the issue is not getting enough credit for full rewards, that's what partying is for.
    Whether you are with level 50s or level 70s it still dies in 5 seconds. Its not player level that is the problem, the OP was just identifying that this is a problem FOR level 50s when the dev team has stated that they are keeping it the same for level 50 players to participate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Whether you are with level 50s or level 70s it still dies in 5 seconds. Its not player level that is the problem, the OP was just identifying that this is a problem FOR level 50s when the dev team has stated that they are keeping it the same for level 50 players to participate.
    Yes I know they still die within 5 seconds. I didn't say I was against the idea, I even clarified I wasn't.

    But it still doesn't change that if the OP is only getting 10 seals, that particular part of his problem can be easily remedied by partying up with 70s because when you party you get everyone's credit (as long as you get 1 hit in). When I was 50-69, I was getting full credit most of the time because the 70's in my party carried my credit because their increased stats generate more enmity, which generates more party credit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squintina View Post
    So party up with the level 70's.

    If you're in a party, you get party credit as long as you get 1 hit in.

    When I first started doings hunts (around 4.1-4.2 ish) I was level 50 partying up with 70s and getting full credit. Party Finder if it's a PF server or ask for an invite.

    Just clarifying, I'm not against the idea. I personally would love if ARR and SB hunts got beefed up, but if the issue is not getting enough credit for full rewards, that's what partying is for.
    Why are people assuming I'm doing them solo? I was in a party when I got nerfed rewards, usually because people are pulling whilst others are still shouting for an invite or they're nearly dead by the time I get there even if I tp'd as soon as an announcement was relayed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    Why are people assuming I'm doing them solo? I was in a party when I got nerfed rewards, usually because people are pulling whilst others are still shouting for an invite or they're nearly dead by the time I get there even if I tp'd as soon as an announcement was relayed.
    Because if you were in a party when you got nerfed rewards, that would mean the entire party got nerfed rewards, not just you. So if your point is that low levels can't get credit, and you were in a party with 70's and still didn't get full credit, then it means that even if you had been high level, you probably still wouldn't have had the chance to get full credit.
    So your level being 50 hardly mattered.

    Truth is, all levels (50 and 70) are affected by the ARR S ranks (and HW S ranks) having such low health. Because even 70's have a hard time getting full rewards if they are in a party that arrived late, due to the rewards for the entire party being based on enmity generated, and thus faster death = less time for smaller/late parties to generate enmity.

    So while I agree they need to do something about it, I don't think stating the low levels is a particularly good reason. It just needs to be done overall because power creep is making these too quick to kill for everyone of all levels. They need a fate-like level sync (with ilvl sync).
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    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    Why are people assuming I'm doing them solo? I was in a party when I got nerfed rewards, usually because people are pulling whilst others are still shouting for an invite or they're nearly dead by the time I get there even if I tp'd as soon as an announcement was relayed.
    The clear answer would be to get there faster.
    Others did.
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    I think Hunts in all zones should have their HP either increased to the SB amount or implement an HP scaling system where the more people there are in the zone when it is engaged, the more HP it has (but that’s probably not possible).
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartaDemireux View Post
    I think Hunts in all zones should have their HP either increased to the SB amount or implement an HP scaling system where the more people there are in the zone when it is engaged, the more HP it has (but that’s probably not possible).
    Or turn them all into Eureka style fates
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    they should scale with the max level of who ever spawned it
    so if a lvl 50/60 wants to spawn a S rank in there respected Area then thats fine
    but if level 70 spawns it then its not as easy to kill

    i think the hunt system should get a re-haul really or buff Most recent A ranks or replace them mid to late expansion
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