Is this truly wrong?

[MoroMurasaki]

Personally dislike these melodramatic threads. This circus has lasted long enough, don't you think? This feels like a soap opera where the initial deemed great player has fallen from grace once found out and is now on his way to redemption. There is plenty information out there already for Summoner, probably the most detailed. Look at good SMN PoVs in slow motion, make notes yourself. Must be honest with you though. If after some effort you can't break the 9th percentile, it's probably just you not able to process information fast enough to make it work.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to do better and worrying about the impact you have on your static members that are better than you. I was in a similar situation and I was able to improve myself. I've mained Monk, BLM, SCH, Ninja and Dragoon, and I did a good job on all of them. But personally if I were a 9th percentile player that is having a hard time overcoming that barrier, I would quit my static as most of them are 80 plus percentile players.

Personally I dislike these self-brag replies. The spotlight doesn't always have to be on you, you know? This feels like your whole first paragraph is there so that the part about how great you are has a tenuous tie to being contextually appropriate. There are plenty of places to brag about how well you do, you could even make your own thread about it. Start a Youtube channel maybe. I hope you're better at SMN than you are at grammar. Honestly though if you have to put others down to feel good about yourself maybe you have bigger problems than optimizing your dps?

There is nothing wrong with being good at the game and wanting to help others improve or worrying about how others perform when it might have a direct impact on your own gameplay. I've been in similar situations and managed to offer helpful advice and encouragement without sounding like I'm only talking for the sake of spreading the news of how good I am. I do a good job on a bunch of classes, not that that's relavent to the conversation at all. But if I were unable to read a thread about someone feeling insecure without responding in a rude, condescending and demeaning way I would probably stop responding on the forums at all since most people I know are decent human beings with empathy and a conscience.

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Honestly I usually hate these sorts of replies that copy sentence-by-sentence but I think this might be the most appropriate way to highlight the rampant disrespect in this post. For real though dude, grats on those purples. If I knew all it took to be a god of like 5 classes was callous disregard for the feelings of others I would have been clearing Ultimate months ago.

[SaitoHikari]

Honestly I usually hate these sorts of replies that copy sentence-by-sentence but I think this might be the most appropriate way to highlight the rampant disrespect in this post. For real though dude, grats on those purples. If I knew all it took to be a god of like 5 classes was callous disregard for the feelings of others I would have been clearing Ultimate months ago.

Yup. Sometimes it's best to just keep quiet and stay at the sidelines. Otherwise you get other raiders coming in to look over the logs to see if someone is actually justified in being a dunce.

I looked over their logs myself, and as it turns out, they're actually quite the example of what others in this thread say when you shouldn't care about percentiles this late into the raid tier unless you're fully best in slotted yourself and actually have a static, because otherwise there's no real way to compete with those that are BiS + doing 'parse runs' to pad their numbers. And I say this as someone who actually has two 100 historical percentile parses in the past, and scored 98 on Doom Train week 2, as a Bard in pug parties.

This guy happens to be in a static that somehow has a Dragoon but no consistent BRD/MCH. The usual raid team will have the Dragoon use their tether for the BRD/MCH for their opener, and then cycle to other party members depending on burst alignment/overall DPS.

However, the logs reveal that probably due to said lack of consistent DRG/MCH, the DRG in his static is exclusively catering to him with the tether in every single run I bothered to check - one advantage the vast majority of Ninjas won't have in normal clear runs. Even in the few recorded runs with other party members scoring higher overall numbers, the DRG is still exclusively throwing the tether on him.

(And now everyone's going to look over my logs, which aren't the best, but I'm just doing whatever I can with whoever I go with.)

Still though, the guy still has a point, general jerkwad reply notwithstanding. Kaiva, I get the impression that you attached some kind of persona to your forum presence, and it's bled onto what you think your performance should be, which spiraled into what's happening in this thread now. Self-reflection is good, but don't expect to get good overnight, especially with a job with as many buttons to press as Summoner does. A lot of the top tier Bards and Summoners have been playing and raiding as those jobs since Heavensward, if not even earlier than that. Right now, you are probably fighting muscle memory/trying to adhere to a comfort zone. It may take months, but you will know when you've made progress when things start melting around you and everything feels as if you've done it all out of pure instinct.

You can't improve if you give up, though.

[Starflake]

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Then you misread my intentions which is of course understandable as I can see where you are coming from. I am not trying to put anyone down, I am here to provide some perspective. If you are truly struggling to beat 9th percentile after actually trying, then to me, it seems like the issue is with the player himself and one should just accept that they're not that great. Has nothing to do with me being a decent player. I don't consider myself to be hot shit, I just have a mindset for self improvement. I've been helpful plenty of times in the game itself. Having done 2000 mentor roulettes I took the job seriously and I like to think I did something for this community. Sorry you read this as me attempting to brag. The sole thing I wanted to get across is that you can only improve as much as you can and you can only go as far. Nice shot at claiming linguistic superiority while claiming one should regard the feelings of others. English is not my first language.

As for the Dragon Sight tether, the only reason I get it currently is because according to Xiv logs app, DS, in fact scales the highest when put on me, even in opener as I burst for 13k in my opener at times. The BRD we currently have is a static member that replaces our old BRD (undergeared atm and not experienced on the class), who also did not output my amount of damage and did not use DS as to the extend that I did (although marginally). There are also logs where I did not receive DS and got great logs. I also have no AST for my best logs and we are a weekly clear raiding group, so we don't optimize. It's cool that you wish to look at logs, I've nothing to hide. I see myself as a capable player, which is all I want to be.

But please, don't confuse my own experience as someone who used to be a bad player as an excuse to brag on how I am now. I am a good Ninja, but not a great one. I don't think I'll ever be a great one and that's fine. I think I'm at my personal limit and that is what I was trying to convey. If you're doing so horribly after trying, you will most likely never be what you have in mind (Kaiva).

That's it for me in here, though. If you feel like you can't improve any further, or that the goals you have set for yourself are too high, then there is no shame about lowering them.