Is this truly wrong?

[micropanther7]

Raided, my dear. Raided. I am retired now and observe young whippersnappers getting cleaved in half from my veranda.
Was rather hilarious though: I went into Omega savage 5/6/7 the other day in order to help out. Apart from being rusty it was interesting how easily and quickly it all came back to me.
The difference between O6 and 7 gave me a good chuckle though. What a cliff.

But alas, after 8.5yrs of active raiding I am done with the "scheduled" gameplay thing. Helping out now and then, sure but planning evenings around raids, being there whether you really feel like playing or not because you people need you to progress ... naah. I rather poke away at my piano these days.

PS: Kudos for getting over your addiction!

LOL that gave me a good chuckle I've felt like that as I've got older, "meh, let the younger ones have at it"..that and taking thousands of years to get off the floor from a kneeling position, with everything creaking And thank you

[Aniise]

As I am reading your posts Kaiva, I get the feeling that maybe a break from the game will help you to calm down a little.

I'm usually not someone to suggest this, as I probably love this game just as much as you do and can understand that not playing it, even though you want to, is much to ask.
But really, I get kind of worried when I read what you write..because you really sound sad and dissapointed at yourself. This clearly isn't healthy for you.

And in no way I am saying that you should just give up at getting better, because if you keep at it you will surely improve. You already have.
BUT there are so many things more important in life than a high dps output or big numbers on FFLogs.
Ingame, you are so focused on your numbers right now that it will be hard to keep away from it and just focus on something else, of course you can try it, but habits are hard to fight most of the time.

So taking a break for like...maybe a week or so might help you to clear your head from everything. And then, when you come back, you might have a different view on things
Always remember that your health is the most important thing. Don't stress yourself so much that you don't enjoy playing anymore.
As some people already wrote, it's a game, not a reallife job.

[Luin]

But at the end of the day: why do you let this ruin the fun for you?

Specially if you still manage to clear everything you want to clear.

SSS doesnt have mechanics. SSS doesnt have party buff alignments.

It's piss easy to hit 6k on a dummy. Especially on Black Mage.

Bad raiders look only at the numbers of a log. You might see someone parse grey and think oh he's garbage. But look closer and see oh okay, he got hit by Intense Pain, and received no healing between that and Demonic Howl. The tank also ate Pain multiple times, but the DPS didn't, so we can assume the tank didnt move for Pain. Then look closer and see okay, he had no AST/BRD/NIN. Look closer and see he had to handle the mechanic due to party composition like disengaging for Siren, and he used Limit Break. That's a lot of downtime.

Also, FFLogs definitely needs a way to snapshot gear, or at the very least, ilvl. Posting a log in i340 is deathsentence.

Ignoring that, your logic isnt solid either. There are plenty of greys out there that *ARE* greys. I've seen nins that legitimately dont know how to TA. Others that think starting with TA before any GCDs is best. Players that have cleared god clown with every parse they've ever had as grey. Who is in their party? Golds and high purples. You arent managing to clear if you're those kinds of players. You're getting carried.

[Alien_Gamer]

I might've typed too fast to realize what I was saying, but the 9th percentile is in Savage for most of those runs. The 50th percentile I recently obtained was in O8 Normal, and is, in my opinion, worse than what I was pulling last month on Savage fights because those are generally much harder. I have no idea what I pulled this week on O5, O6, and O7.

Ah, I see. But if that's what you're doing then you're only making things harder for yourself. Savage and HM are different fights, they have the same base but savage does more damage and has more mechanics. You are comparing apples to oranges and wondering why you're faltering; you are using the correlation between savage and hm to determine your change in performance and you can't really do that. If you want to accurately test your performance then you need to test your performance on the same thing. If you're at 9% 2 weeks ago then run with a friend a few times in Savage to get your performance now. Doing what you're doing is basically guessing without any facts and as you've already stated, you're very hard on yourself therefore your guesses aren't going to be in your favor.

Honestly, even if all you've done is go up 5% in 2 weeks I'd call that successful training; in a limited timeframe you've shown improvement of your skills. Is a 5% increase your goal? Nope, nor would I suggest you should stop there if you aren't happy with it but it is proof that you're progressing, that you're improving. I don't want to dictate how you should play but I'd suggest that perfection should not be your goal, just steady improvement and aim for that 1-2% increase each week until you hit the 80th+ percentile. Aim for a goal that you know you can achieve, you'll feel better about it each week and some weeks you may even surprise yourself with higher improvements. Expecting 10% increases each week is only going to set yourself up for failure and make you feel worse.

[Vidu]

SSS doesnt have mechanics. SSS doesnt have party buff alignments.
It's piss easy to hit 6k on a dummy. Especially on Black Mage.

Yes, thats why I suggest SSS to figure out wether its someones rotation thats a problem or if its mechanics. (afaik SSS is also calculated without party buffs and the like in mind - its basically really telling you wether or not you know the "mechanics" or "rotation" of a class well enough and if you're geared enough to pull the DPS required)

An ice-mage will never beat the O7S-dummy, with or without mechanics.
If you clear it with ease though, you can now rest assured that you've got your job down and its infact more the fight you need to work on more.

Consdering all the factors that come into play with the numbers on fflgos - buffs from party-members, mechanic mess ups that werent your fault, no healing, getting picked for a mechanic that requires you to disengage, having to raise a healer to save the group etc. etc. - I'd say to get an idea wether or not you're doing fine on a ground level, SSS is the better option.

Ofc there are people getting carried and obviously thats bad - especially when those people dont strife to improve. But what good does it do to tell someone whos trying to improve "Yeah, you're just bad"? Instead of rather being like "Okay, check if you have your rotation down and wether or not thats the problem"?

My point is: Personally, I can go into fights with more ease after I've beaten SSS on that class, because I know that I'm capable of performing with that class in general.
For any numbers generated in that fight, I'm taking into account anything else that contributed to them. All with the knowledge, that my class-performance isnt the problem and that I only need to get the dance of this encounter down (and teach that AST that crit-buffs are for bards!)

[Gin_Gray]

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Quitting is easy, getting good is hard but remember the simple fact that you trying to get better is more than most people are willing to do. Keep at it and trust you'll get better over time, if you're not already doing it now try hitting a dummy a few hours out of your day while you're in que etc. Find one of your friends who can check your numbers because as of now you're only seeing the random runs where you might not of been at your best. Getting good doesn't happen over night its a journey, but do remember to have fun first and foremost.

[Nhadaly]

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Have you ever thought about tackling savage content with different classes? Summoner has a daunting rotation that very few can get right in every occassion, not to mention that u have to adjust said rotation on EVERY savage fight to get the most out of your spells, there are many more classes with easier rotations, id be happy to recommend a few based upon what you think you are the best at doing right now.

[Limonia]

What also doesn't help with that is reading forum posts.

I usually play healers. A while a go I tried the O5S dummy with my ilvl 348 RDM and beat it with 0-2 seconds. I even failed it once because I accidentally pressed the wrong buttons. In the past I did the same with the O1S dummy and no matter how often I tried, I didn't get better than maybe 3 seconds faster or so.

And then there are posts by players who say (just an example) 5000 dps is very, very low and only bad players do so little dps. And there are posts by players who say they almost never play RDM and still can beat the O5S dummy with ilvl 330 with 20 seconds left on the timer.

I don't know at all if that's wrong or if it's normal, but it makes me feel so extremely bad that I only very rarely play a DPS anywhere.

[BluexBird]

In case it hasn't been said, logs are EXTREMELY reliant on equipment - especially weapon wise. I can guarantee you that by now, everyone in the 90% bracket have their ilvl 370-375 weapon, and are close to (if not) ilvl 370. And it makes a huge difference.

Also, you absolutely have to use pots. If you don't use pots, you'll struggle to break past 80%. Hell, even 70% is a struggle without pots sometimes.

And now for a somewhat minor variable you might not be aware of - padded runs. A ridiculous amount of people will end up with better parses than you, simply because the AST is giving them all the Balance cards, and stuff like that. But you don't have to worry about this if all you want is to get close to the 90s.

For starters, just focus on getting to ilvl 370. Get your weapon, and THEN try showing what you're capable of.

[RiyahArp]

Well...I still think this is stupid, but i get the sense Kaiva simply won't let go of it, so some more tips.

In overwatch reddit, people often ask for a VOD, you could do that here. That means you go out, do a normal savage run, and record the whole run so experienced players can see it and give tips/critique play. Get a buddy to also parse the run for you, and post both in a place you trust people will give you balanced feedback on it, and go down the fight play by play. They will point out that you are lagging on your opener, or not pressing buttons enough, or tend to end deathflare or something too early or too late etc.

Also, pick one savage fight, and just do it nonstop for like a month in every situation. Do it till you are sick of the stupid thing, and you have gear for every class. Do it with pugs so you see everything that can go right or wrong with it. Forget the logs, just do the thing till you can do it in your dreams. I'd bet your parses would go up then.