Should items previously tied to physical purchases become available in-game again?

[Divinemights]

This is the handy work of this forum:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...to-Mog-Station

Are we going to put S/E in a dilema where if they listen to us, it is corporate greed, but if they don't listen to us, it is they dont't care about the community?

My conclusion?
OP, Feast Reward is not only an exclusive item, it is also a trophy.
It should never be available again

[Nihility]

technically most if not all of the physical item tie in's were advertised as exclusive and limited which means they definitely shouldn't be made available again.
they could do similar things though

same deal with feast seasonal rewards, they were advertised as exclusive
why the least liked part of the least played aspect of the game gets so much special attention is perhaps another conversation entirely

[KisaiTenshi]

Previously, there were exclusive items that were tied to purchases made outside of the game. Many of these things aren't available anymore or their codes have expired.

For those that were late to the party, what do you say to them -- tough luck? Or would you like the opportunity for players to be able to get them in-game again?

(For the purpose of this discussion, I won't say make them available on Mog Station because that's a whole other can of worms I don't want to open).

Examples include:
- The Goobue, tattoo and Chocobo barding from 1.0 (a 2.0 pre-order? I don't know)
- The carbuncle plushes
- The mail moogle
- The Odin Zantetsuken emote
(and in time, things like the Shiva emote, Nidhogg minion, Hraesvelgr minion)

The 1.0 Tattoo and the 1.0 Chocobo should never become available except to players that played 1.0. This is less of a "I got mine" and more of a "I played 1.0 and lived to tell the tale." I don't know about the Goobue as I wasn't aware of the requirements for it.

Everything else that was not exclusive to that version of the game (eg I remember the 1.0 preorder items that I COULD NOT REDEEM, and henceforth have been rather ticked off about pre-order bonuses from SE ever since) may as well come back as they were bonus items that you didn't actually pay more for. I'm sure there's quite a few people who played 1.0 and wished that they had remembered to migrate their character.

Anyway.

All other things, that are event items, or physical purchase tie ins, they should either come back by having the event re-played that gave them, or they should be purchasable from the Mog station if you really-really want them immediately. Some items I believe were only available due to physically going to where where SE had setup a booth at a convention, and that's rather unfair to players who can't go to them (really, at $300/night not to mention entry costs, do you really want to spend around $1000 to go to a convention to pick up a $25 plush?)

[Skivvy]

Some items I believe were only available due to physically going to where where SE had setup a booth at a convention, and that's rather unfair to players who can't go to them (really, at $300/night not to mention entry costs, do you really want to spend around $1000 to go to a convention to pick up a $25 plush?)

This is the type of stuff that bothers me, but on the other end of the argument. If people spent $1000 to be at an event that was selling exclusive items, or if their ticket included a code for an exclusive item, then they are the ones who deserve it.

Yeaaars ago, I went to a XI fan-fest just to get the item. I'm sure for most people, the "exclusive item" is just a cherry on top, but for me is was the only reason I went in the first place. Thankfully it was local, so just gas and the ticket were my only cost. But still, these things do have a value to some people.

Someone else in this thread mentioned buying the statues for the emotes alone. How upset would they be if SE's plan was to start selling the emote by itself for $12 on the cash shop? That's a wee bit shady, and bound to lose the trust of some players.

[KisaiTenshi]

Someone else in this thread mentioned buying the statues for the emotes alone. How upset would they be if SE's plan was to start selling the emote by itself for $12 on the cash shop? That's a wee bit shady, and bound to lose the trust of some players.

I will not begrude someone who wants to spend the money to go to the fanfests, but you have to realize that the only people who can actually go to them live nearby (eg for the Japan and Europe fanfests), or it was not unreasonable to go by car (Las Vegas is not an unreasonable trip as all major cities have direct flights there, but it is not cheap at all) but it's not like Japan where you can take a train there and come back in one day.

Like making these items available after 24 months is not unreasonable, or after the next major content patch. The only items that I feel would be upsetting to players would be the 1.0 tattoo and maybe anything that came with the original 2.0/3.0/4.0 preorder, since those items basically say "I paid for ARR/HW/SB", but they could always be had later by purchasing the upgrade on mogstation anyway. So by making it available in the shop has the unintended consequence of people never buying the pre-orders in the future.

[Vstarstruck]

This is the type of stuff that bothers me, but on the other end of the argument. If people spent $1000 to be at an event that was selling exclusive items, or if their ticket included a code for an exclusive item, then they are the ones who deserve it.

Someone else in this thread mentioned buying the statues for the emotes alone. How upset would they be if SE's plan was to start selling the emote by itself for $12 on the cash shop? That's a wee bit shady, and bound to lose the trust of some players.

it would be 3 wrongs then, and I do not know a saying on that.
I do not agree with "exclusive in game items" attached to limited one time thing, that is how scams start off in general, so people feel more pressured in buying something they do not want to. I said what I said because I do not agree to the exclusive item thing, but I felt some on here support such a thing so I wanted more weight of an argument in why everything should be in mog station after a set time. (save 1.0 stuff, that is a whole different situation, since there was no original intent in having that situation anyway)

People are free to be upset about that, this is why SE should not be doing it in the first place. It should be a SIDE bonus (I/e you are getting it for free because you want to do the main object) but that side bonus should not be locked from getting main object in question. In other words I have no issue with giving you a free mog station item for going to the convention or buying a 140 statue, but that side content that was free should be made available to everyone.

You are neglecting not just costs, some people simply can't travel due to disability and such, I guess what I am saying is, SE really should start putting these side bonuses the same time you can get them for "free".

[Nihility]

The 1.0 Tattoo and the 1.0 Chocobo should never become available except to players that played 1.0. This is less of a "I got mine" and more of a "I played 1.0 and lived to tell the tale." I don't know about the Goobue as I wasn't aware of the requirements for it.

Everything else that was not exclusive to that version of the game (eg I remember the 1.0 preorder items that I COULD NOT REDEEM, and henceforth have been rather ticked off about pre-order bonuses from SE ever since) may as well come back as they were bonus items that you didn't actually pay more for. I'm sure there's quite a few people who played 1.0 and wished that they had remembered to migrate their character.

Anyway.

All other things, that are event items, or physical purchase tie ins, they should either come back by having the event re-played that gave them, or they should be purchasable from the Mog station if you really-really want them immediately. Some items I believe were only available due to physically going to where where SE had setup a booth at a convention, and that's rather unfair to players who can't go to them (really, at $300/night not to mention entry costs, do you really want to spend around $1000 to go to a convention to pick up a $25 plush?)

parts of your post just resonate with me lol
I had a 1.0 character and at the time ARR launched was like... I don't want to start basically a new game with everyone already pre-established and rich and leveled.
and nowadays i go back once in a while and look at that tattoo on character creation and drop a single tear XD

for conventions though i don't think there was anything exactly like your saying. It was either "kill this primal and we'll put an npc in game for a month selling a special earring" or you could buy a stream of the convention and get the same reward as attending

[Stormfur]

Oh, I wasn't talking about feast, but the talk about rewards there made me wonder about other things that are exclusive or things that are no longer being made...like I couldn't get the Odin emote now even if I wanted to. Therefore I posed the question, should things like that be made available in game after the fact?

[Istaru]

Oh, I wasn't talking about feast, but the talk about rewards there made me wonder about other things that are exclusive or things that are no longer being made...like I couldn't get the Odin emote now even if I wanted to. Therefore I posed the question, should things like that be made available in game after the fact?

No.

It was sold as a limited exclusive. They should not go back on that.

Do what you say and say what you do.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Someone else in this thread mentioned buying the statues for the emotes alone. How upset would they be if SE's plan was to start selling the emote by itself for $12 on the cash shop? That's a wee bit shady, and bound to lose the trust of some players.

I have the Shiva statue. If they eventually put the emote on the Mogstation two years later, I couldn't care less. I bought the statue because I wanted it. And while the emote was a nice perk, I do not begrudge other people getting it.