Will we ever get selfish physical ranged job?

[Samsta]

Currently the way the physical ranged dps role skills are shoehorn all of them to this supporting dps role. However, I think it would be nice to get a selfish physical ranged dps job, like samurai and black mage are supposed to be. (With minimal to no utility and high personal dps). Do you think we will ever get one? What would it be? Maybe give them access to the role actions but give them no support/utility skills on their own.

[PerrinTaveren]

we would need a bazooka, though that would mean deleting mch. I already imagine bazooka shooting moogles with mog weapon.

[Rongway]

It would be difficult to reconcile nuclear-level damage with the mobility that a ranged DoW has. They'll end up having cast times and/or some sort of complicated self buff juggling system, and then at that point why aren't we just playing BLM?

[Samsta]

It would be difficult to reconcile nuclear-level damage with the mobility that a ranged DoW has. They'll end up having cast times and/or some sort of complicated self buff juggling system, and then at that point why aren't we just playing BLM?

It wouldn't need to be at the highest level, just higher than the other physical ranged, remember they would still have access to refresh, tactician and palisade. It would just give an option to people that want to play non-magical ranged without all of the support/utility stuff. Magic users and melee already have classes that have more utility/support than others at the cost of personal dps and vice versa, would be nice to have the option for ranged physical as well.

[Seraphor]

MCH is your selfish physical ranged.
It doesn't have any utility besides the Role skills and Hypercharge (which is a semi-selfish utility like Trick Attack or SAM's slashing debuff anyway) and it deals significant damage, if you get your wildfire rotation off ok.

When they decided to make the Bards utility Role skills they eliminated any chance of a purely selfish physical ranged DPS.

Oh and MCH should totally get a Bazooka as a +70 ability in the next expansion. XD
It should be a 180s oGCD that ends Wildfire when used, so it's used as a finisher.

[Samsta]

MCH is your selfish physical ranged.
It doesn't have any utility besides the Role skills and Hypercharge (which is a semi-selfish utility like Trick Attack or SAM's slashing debuff anyway) and it deals significant damage, if you get your wildfire rotation off ok.

When they decided to make the Bards utility Role skills they eliminated any chance of a purely selfish physical ranged DPS.

Oh and MCH should totally get a Bazooka as a +70 ability in the next expansion. XD
It should be a 180s oGCD that ends Wildfire when used, so it's used as a finisher.

Excuse me if I am wrong, but in my knowledge machinists have not parsed nowhere near the top in stormblood, in fact they are one of the lowest. As for utility yeah they don't have as much as bard, but you forgot to mention dismantle which is not insignificant. Hypercharge and dismantle take machinist more to a debuffer kind of support and both of those are very strong support abilities.

[HyoMinPark]

Honestly, I don’t think they should make more selfish DPS jobs unless they can figure out how to properly balance them and/or actually allow them to be selfish.. As it stands now, the “true selfish DPS job” (i.e., SAM) is getting flattened by MNK, which has utility aspects in the form of Mantra and Brotherhood. So, until the developers can actually allow “selfish DPS” to be selfish, I would rather them not introduce another one.

Excuse me if I am wrong, but in my knowledge machinists have not parsed nowhere near the top in stormblood, in fact they are one of the lowest.

Going by current FFLogs data, MCH is (this is for All Bosses) usually 5th (in 50th to 99th percentiles), above DRG, NIN, BRD, and RDM. Only at Max does it fall to 3rd from the bottom, above RDM and NIN with BRD surpassing it.

So I wouldn’t say they’re one of the lowest; they seem to hover about in the middle. Lowest is BRD/RDM at most percentiles, with BRD finally pulling ahead at Max rank.

[Yeol]

During the last raid tier of HW, BRD and MCH were the top DPs. They had a 30% self buff that made all their weaponskills have a cast time (A BLM in disguise). Glad these days are over, because having high utility + high dps is just bad and unfair to other jobs.

MCH can be easily turned into a pure DPs. If they make Hypercharge a personal buff rather than raid buff, increase Guss Barrel and Hot Shot damage percentage. You almost get HW MCH back - (the raid buff and cast bar).

But personally I prefer MCH to stay the way it is now. MCH is already not popular and making it a selfish DPs will result in even less players playing it.

[Neela]

"selfish physical ranged job" = you don't have to care grp utility, movement, pet/turret or aoes?... doesn't that sound kinda overpowered & boring at the same time... q.q

[AppleJinx]

I'd imagine a selfish physical ranged will be quite boring to play as since you don't ever need to worry about positionals, uptime, and greeding casts.