Seeing Square Enix in a new light. I am grateful for this game.

[Sarynth]

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Of all the examples you choose to give for Tera you picked the ps4 port which from what I heard did horrible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LU4mAsR2v0 would be a better example (take note SE tank with shield and lance just saying :3)

[Vstarstruck]

4.3 coming out, I see SE in a new light for sure
15 dollars per month +21 dollars per month (P2W, or pay for advantage, w/e be nit picky what win means but your paying for an advanage)+ microtranction fees for feeding P2W further. (also the sub on top of the sub fee locks a basic UI feature, retainer to retainer item movement)
so FFXIV as of 4.3 is F2P that is locked behind a base sub.

Tera may be a bad port to PS4 but do they have this level of shadyness?

[Mizunoko]

Of all the examples you choose to give for Tera you picked the ps4 port which from what I heard did horrible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LU4mAsR2v0 would be a better example (take note SE tank with shield and lance just saying :3)

Considering my example was specifically to point out how bad Tera''s PORT TO CONSOLE was i made the correct example choice lol.

[Colino]

It's been a bumpy ride to say the least but I keep staying for some reason, so OP has a point in saying they're doing at least something right. I however also feel the team might be sitting on their laurels a bit in terms of innovating and actually changing things for the better like they did for 2.0.

[Sarynth]

Considering my example was specifically to point out how bad Tera''s PORT TO CONSOLE was i made the correct example choice lol.

Fair enough, I'll give se props for how well they did bringing 14 to ps4

[RedHerb]

I myself have ranted and raved before, while i do still hope for them to better things even further after my recent experiences with Tera i feel like i should not be as negative as i used to be. I really appreciate what i have because at the least its better than most others out there, and i know for a fact it is well worth the 14 dollars a month to be a part of Final Fantasy 14. It really is something special to be a part of.

14 dollars a month? What 14 are you paying?

14 where?

14.99 for characters
+2 PER RETAINER.
+5 for premium app.

At least Tera doesn't have the audacity to be pay to play while still sucking money out of my pocket like a vacuum cleaner. Pick one square enix.

[Nestama]

Tera may be a bad port to PS4 but do they have this level of shadyness?

What's your opinion on loot boxes?

[Sarynth]

Redherb, I'm not sure about Mizu, but I only pay 11.99 per month for FFXIV (9.99 legacy + 1 retainer so I can have one of each DoL). Also Tera has plenty of loot boxes that you get as monster drops but the only way to open them is to buy keys on the cash shop.

[Nestama]

Also Tera has plenty of loot boxes that you get as monster drops but the only way to open them is to buy keys on the cash shop.

And the items you get from the boxes are all purely RNG if I recall (unsure if entirely cosmetic with mounts included, or if end game items are included as well), so also sitting in gambling territory. That would have me extremely disappointed in SE if they brought something like that into FFXIV.

[Maero]

@ Mizunoko, yes and i clearly stated it was my opinion i will not argue here. And you clearly do not view as such but having played FFXIV over 4 years now and Tera maybe a month and for me i feel the rewards are better in Tera and the combat is more exciting.
Rewards in FFXIV are tied behind a really bad rng system and will be made worst now with the All Greed nonsense.
@ Sarynth The loot boxes in Tera having to buy keys in the cash shop is not 100% accurate as i have received free keys before and i have not spent anything .

With this all said i still love FFXIV and it is clearly the better looking, and better performing game. But we are also talking about one game that was ported while the other was created to run on console and PC...
Anyhow i have stated what i wanted to so carry on people