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  1. #1
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    Hestzhyen's Avatar
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    Hestzhyen Voer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    And yet, it also helps make the races feel unique, especially when everyone is claiming they are all just hyur copies.

    I like the fact that there are things that make them different.
    I'd rather SE do more to differentiate the physical features than introduce more arbitrary gear/action locks. More varied ear/tail/horn combos, more scale pattern options (maybe even an option to be more scales than skin... the female lizards tend to be too far to the "cute" side for my tastes at least), more height/build options...

    I feel like saying "you can't have this because you didn't roll x" is a cheap way to gate things. True variety comes from players choosing between many options to customize their characters right down to the idle pose they use, not by forcing restrictions based on race and gender.
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    Zathurain's Avatar
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    Raina Primstone
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    And yet, it also helps make the races feel unique, especially when everyone is claiming they are all just hyur copies.

    I like the fact that there are things that make them different.
    Then we also shouldn't be allowed to use the beast tribe dances. Or the harvest dance, as that's specifically a Gridanian dance and we're an outsider, same with the Ball Dance, Step Dance, and we definitely shouldn't be able to use the Eastern and Thavnairian Dances.

    OP isn't saying "Remove these as cultural aspects of the races", they're saying "Let us get access to the other dances via quests that teach us about the lore of the races". Which, funnily enough, would make each race more unique.

    And regarding the dances in the first place (if they did add quests to get them), I think the quests for them should give them as persistent versions of the dances, just to add to the reward. That and I'd love to have a persistent version of the dance I get as my fem Au'ra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    And yet, it also helps make the races feel unique, especially when everyone is claiming they are all just hyur copies.

    I like the fact that there are things that make them different.
    Wouldn't all races become more unique by being able to do more dances separate from their basic dance? I mean you'd be able to express yourself in a lot more ways and I think that adds to the uniqueness
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    Last edited by Bellsong; 04-05-2018 at 10:11 AM.

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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Wouldn't all races become more unique by being able to do more dances separate from their basic dance? I mean you'd be able to express yourself in a lot more ways and I think that adds to the uniqueness
    No, it would make races less unique. You are talking about uniqueness of individuals. The whole point of this request is to get access to something only one race has access to atm and to reduce the uniqueness of that race.

    I would like more race exclusive gear, hair, physical features and emotes. The devs are taking the lazy route by designing 1 thing everyone can use instead of designing 6 things only one race can use.
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    Last edited by Reinha; 04-05-2018 at 11:40 AM.
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    Because it makes no sense for specific movements to be restricted by race.
    It actually does - For example, only Miqo'te an Au Ra have tails, therefore any movements that require the tail would naturally be exclusive and other people not being able to do them makes sense. Similar goes for tail ornaments.

    Considering how extremely homogenized our races are in terms of appearance, you'll just be hard pressed to name many examples of that. We don't have races with hooves or snouts that would require specific gear, nor something like undead that might take off their head and juggle with it. None of our races is able to breathe fire for a little lightshow emote either. There's very little that physically distinguishes the races and as such, race locks just plain don't make sense.

    What does make some sense is that you'd first need to learn/earn it and I'd take that as inspiration to delve deeper into the lore of the races via sidequest lines that unlock the stuff in a similar way as we do with the Beast Tribes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    Because it makes no sense for specific movements to be restricted by race. People learn from each other.
    So you want dances. What about all the other emotes? Are those up for grabs too? You do realize those are all different too right?
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    X'lota Qi
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    So you want dances. What about all the other emotes? Are those up for grabs too? You do realize those are all different too right?
    many, not all

    If I had my preference we would have personalty options during character creation which would include choosing some of your emotes.
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    Lho Polaali
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    My only concern is how would an Elezen look performing the Lalafell dances which rely on having 45% of your body actually be your butt.
    NM it'll be hilarious, sign me up. Just keep the line of text when you perform it different, just to keep it a bit different.
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    It'd be fun to learn em from NPC's of different races, and fun > pointless exclusivity in my opinion
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    Hestzhyen Voer
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    Gilgamesh
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    I'm up for almost anything if it means more lore and dances. Might be strange to say this but I want more text-heavy sidequests that expand the world. Getting a new dance for finishing them is just icing on the cake.

    Most of all, I want to know more about my character's own clan- there's not much out there for Keepers.
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