Thief, Musketeer, Dark Knight, and Arcanist

[Skies]

I'm just going to chime in here pointing out you people have a serious issue defining Class and Job (probably because you're drawing from other games to get a meaning for the name)

Remember that in XIV 'Class' means the primary progression, wherein the majority of your abilities come from and where grinding/XP comes from.

'Job' here means a secondary progression, based on quests and with only a very small handful of abilities aimed to specialized the class, essentially a 'Class-mod'.

More often than not when people say 'keep jobs and waste classes' it REALLY makes me cringe because you're getting the entire concepts backwards and what you really want to say is 'specialize classes and remove jobs'.

By the way, I really love the Armory system as it is and in fact I do want classes and jobs to stay as it is, I do think that being job-locked is also a bad idea and that it would remove the point of having more than one job for each class (one of the biggest draws for me in this game is the effectivelly null altitis thanks to a single character being able to master all classes and jobs, the other big draw is the focus on crafting and gathering it has). And sincerely I don't see what the problem is that people see with classes being tied to weapon, it's a pretty unique and fun idea and nothing prevents SE from making variations of the same weapon archetypes of that class.

[Molly_Millions]

銃術士はそれよりあとに実装予定で二丁拳銃の仕組みまでは考えてるとか
Musketeer is planned for after that and also thinking of duel gun

Dual-Gun Musketteer is very cool.

That says DUEL, not DUAL

du·el

: a combat between two persons; specifically : a formal combat with weapons fought between two persons in the presence of witnesses


VS.


du·al
adj \ˈdü(-ə)l also ˈdyü-əl\

of grammatical number : denoting reference to two



That's duel as in dueling pistol

[Velhart]

I need Musketeer and Dark Knight in my life.

[Arcell]

That says DUEL, not DUAL

du·el

: a combat between two persons; specifically : a formal combat with weapons fought between two persons in the presence of witnesses


VS.


du·al
adj \ˈdü(-ə)l also ˈdyü-əl\

of grammatical number : denoting reference to two



That's duel as in dueling pistol

True, and I'm fine with that though Merlwyb does use two pistols simultaneously.

[Isaveron]

I highly disagree. Once the exp gain rate is toned down (they said it would in 2.0) it will take actual effort to level a job to cap, and once more endgame stuff comes out, it'll take more effort to gear that maxed job appropriately. Once it takes a decent amount of commitment to play a job to its fullest, people will start to pick their favorite few and stick with them mostly.

By effort you mean will take longer. Leveling won't be harder just more time consuming.

[Keres]

That says DUEL, not DUAL

du·el

: a combat between two persons; specifically : a formal combat with weapons fought between two persons in the presence of witnesses


VS.


du·al
adj \ˈdü(-ə)l also ˈdyü-əl\

of grammatical number : denoting reference to two



That's duel as in dueling pistol

While I'm all for correcting spelling errors as much as the next guy, this one is actually a misspelling on Reinheart's part. "Dual pistols" as in "two pistols" is actually the intended meaning here.

銃術士はそれよりあとに実装予定で二丁拳銃の仕組みまでは考えてるとか

二丁拳銃 = "two guns"

Even though my Japanese isn't very good, I know enough to know that it roughly says "aside from guns, we're considering adding the ability to use two guns as well, among other things."

[Molly_Millions]

While I'm all for correcting spelling errors as much as the next guy, this one is actually a misspelling on Reinheart's part. "Dual pistols" as in "two pistols" is actually the intended meaning here.


二丁拳銃 = "two guns"

Even though my Japanese isn't very good, I know enough to know that it roughly says "aside from guns, we're considering adding the ability to use two guns as well, among other things."

That little e changes the meaning drastically. I don't speak a word of Japanese, so thanks for the clarification.

[Sir_Hermes]

So anyway, thats stupid. this class system is a complete fail. Once they implement these jobs, which are additions to classes.. We will already be level 50 on the job lol ? They need to separate classes from jobs, possibly making you choose between having your class or job at 50, and the other at 30.

Ex: Currently = Gld50,Pld50 ------> After, Gld30,Pld50, or Gld50,Pld30.. They need to separate these will still possible, they fk'd this up on the day placed into this game.

[Arcell]

lol molly's mad because he/she fails at logic

Molly isn't failing at anything. The translation said Duel guns which, if you know proper English, means a gun used for dueling. The error was in the initial translation with two words that are incredibly similar and could both be used in context. You could assume all you want that duel actually meant dual but well, you know what they say about assuming.

[Molly_Millions]

lol molly's mad because he/she fails at logic

..and you're just upset that you fail at life