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    Turtle Syn
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    Coeurl
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    Pugilist Lv 70

    BST/TRN Tank Class

    So I loved Beast Master from FFXI. I didn't get to play it much, but it was fun.

    I'd love to play BST in FFXIV as well, but in the end I am not sure that the class would really fit as good as it could the way most people want it.

    Capturing and Taming a wild monster would be fun to do and would be fun to run around with, but in the end I feel like the nature of FFXIV would sort of ruin that experience. There are a lot of factors that go into this game and in the end I don't think having BST work like it did in FFXI would fit with this game.

    However, there is another game with a class that is similar, and that is Trainer from FFX-2. Yeah it's not the same but it is still similar. It gives you a pet creature that you use in battle. It is also a little like SMN yes, but it still has unique abilities that differ between the three characters.

    So anyway, with BST and TRN as references, I can see a BST/TRN class on FFXIV working a little like a mix between the two classes.
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    Turtle Syn
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    You have only one pet. This pet is given to you at the start when you get your Soul Crystal. Your weapon is a Whip. From the start every quest is you bonding with your pet while also gaining other pets(off gcd skills) to help you in battle.

    As for how it'd work as a tank, you wouldn't be able to move the pet like you would a SMN or SCH or MCH. Instead, you'd have stances. Your Offensive Stance has the Pet to your side and your Defensive Stance has the Pet in front of you.

    When in Offense, your pet is the main attacker. Your abilities are using your whip to rouse and command your pet into action.

    In Defense, your pet is taking the Brunt of the Damage, it does not have a health bar of its own and instead just lessens the damage you take by being your 'shield'.

    Your Off Global Cooldown attacking or active defense skills would be calling forth other creatures to strike or protect.
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    tldr: Beastmaster/trainer that ditches capturing monsters for a single monster that is given to you at the start. Doesn't work like SMN/SCH because pet moves with you not separately. Defensive stance has pet working like a damage buffer, reducing what damage you take. Offensive stance has pet standing next to you working as extra damage. Weapon is Whip. Off GCD are other monsters summoned for an attack or brief barrier.
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    Here are some other bits I'd enjoy for you pet, but they'd probably be harder to implement.
    • Naming your pet
    • Different weapons changing pet appearance a bit
    • 3 types of 'beasts' for your pet to be
    • Pet interaction emotes

    Just a couple things that would help the class be more entertaining.
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  5. #5
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    Zlatan Tarrant
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    I actually really like this a lot.

    Id like to add:

    Im imagining a system where depending on what you do to enhance the offensive/defensive capabilities of your pet, doing it too much has a negative effect on it. For example, whipping it to hard to enable it to attack more leaves it more prone to damage when entering into defensive stance. Your other cool downs would mitigate these effects, or certain animals can be summoned to keep it within flavor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan View Post
    I actually really like this a lot.

    Id like to add:

    Im imagining a system where depending on what you do to enhance the offensive/defensive capabilities of your pet, doing it too much has a negative effect on it. For example, whipping it to hard to enable it to attack more leaves it more prone to damage when entering into defensive stance. Your other cool downs would mitigate these effects, or certain animals can be summoned to keep it within flavor.
    That would be a very cool addition to it while making it different enough from the other tank classes. Very nice.
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    Pastahnak Popotonak
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    Famfrit
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    Fisher Lv 80
    I can imagine a little pet story in a future city where we can get pet glams :P. This is a really cool idea and anything that allows beast master in the game without the beast functioning like smn's summons is top priority :P
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    Jubei Chen
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    Leviathan
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    Samurai Lv 80
    I think its a bad idea. Mainly cuz of the dev team not your post. The reason is that the devs seem to REALLY dislike pets and refuse to update the system. Chocobos were abandoned, Summoner/ Scholar pets are basically a joke that passively do everything on their own more or less and ppl have forgotten MCH even exist. When Yoshi P was asked about updating the basic pet controls he flat out refused to in the interview. Its not a bad idea its just unworkable with the level of effort the devs put in, sorry to rain on your parade.
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    Mute Shellback
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    just give it aura-like stances akin to some dude named Udyr from some bad MOBA.
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    Hugo Wolf
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Please no, not in this game at least. Half the time I’m on SMN pet actions don’t register and I miss out on burst windows for dps. Imagine having those sort of issues as a tank. I’m glad people have these ideas, it’s creative fun. Though these pet tank ideas will never work in this game.
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