Another "Maiming" class?

[Lord_Zlatan]

Anyone else feel like there needs to be another Maiming class, one that shares gear with DRG?

I love DRG and never get tried of playing it, but all of my other 70s share gear with another class. Id like to level something that I could share my DRG gear with.

[EllieShadeflare]

Anyone else feel like there needs to be another Maiming class, one that shares gear with DRG?

I love DRG and never get tried of playing it, but all of my other 70s share gear with another class. Id like to level something that I could share my DRG gear with.

We oughta get another Scouting Class while we're at it.

[Lord_Zlatan]

We oughta get another Scouting Class while we're at it.

Tend to agree there. I always forget, because I dont play NIN, BRD, or MCH, but are those 3 all in the "Scouting" group?

[Raldo]

Scouting is current NIN-only, just like maiming is DRG-only.

Maiming - DRG
Sriking - MNK/SAM
Scouting - NIN
Aiming - BRD/MCH
Casting - BLM/SMN/RDM
Fending - WAR/PLD/DRK
Healing - WHM/SCH/AST

[Jonnycbad]

Maiming was made because DRGs have higher physical defense and HP than NIN and MNK but have poorer magic defense.

[wereotter]

Maiming was made because DRGs have higher physical defense and HP than NIN and MNK but have poorer magic defense.

Except that's not longer quite the case. Dragoons now have the same magic defense as other melee jobs, but still higher physical defense. Honestly I feel like they could just combine their gear sets with Samurai and Monk at this point and eliminate maiming as a set entirely.

Also I was surprised that Red Mage didn't share scouting gear with Ninja as DEX could easily have been a primary stat for that job if it were designed more melee heavy than caster heavy.

[EllieShadeflare]

Also I was surprised that Red Mage didn't share scouting gear with Ninja as DEX could easily have been a primary stat for that job if it were designed more melee heavy than caster heavy.

They could have, if the class was named Spell Fencer. But it's Red Mage, so it's a caster.

[wereotter]

They could have, if the class was named Spell Fencer. But it's Red Mage, so it's a caster.

Red Mage, in my opinion, doesn't use its rapier enough as it's TOO caster centered. I feel like while the job is fun as-is, I would have liked to see it be more of a melee caster job using DEX as a main stat and having its magic scale of it's DEX (just like magic attacks performed by ninja)

Mage doesn't mean caster exclusively. People are already talking about Blue Mage being a tank....

[EllieShadeflare]

Red Mage, in my opinion, doesn't use its rapier enough as it's TOO caster centered. I feel like while the job is fun as-is, I would have liked to see it be more of a melee caster job using DEX as a main stat and having its magic scale of it's DEX (just like magic attacks performed by ninja)

Mage doesn't mean caster exclusively. People are already talking about Blue Mage being a tank....

Well, it might help to talk about Job history because "Blue Mage being a tank" is simultaneously a good point but also one with mixed context.

Red Mage in its history was always capable of decent melee capabilities, often having the ability to wield swords and wearing decent armour. However, they've never had ENOUGH of a focus on melee beyond perhaps FFXI, but even then another job did its role of "magic melee fighter" (Rune Fencer) to a better degree. Red Mage has generally just been a Jack of All Trades, Master of None, with its major emphasis being decently armoured, decently deadly with magic and decently good at healing. Its ability to melee was always an afterthought. As a result, its ability to use a sword isn't entirely forgotten, nor is its healing but neither are entirely major parts of the Red Mage identity.

Blue Mage, however... is weird, even among mages. Its "magic" are enemy skills, and throughout its history, Blue Mage has often had to take said spells to the face to learn them. In the case of FFXIV, it'd make sense for them to be a tank, due to their history of having to be struck and even FFV, their origin game and codifier, had them wielding shields and relatively durable through HP. Heck, some of the most notable Blue Magic spells include the support spell Mighty Guard (which is currently a Limit Break for tanks, I might add), the self heal Vampire, Strago's Rippler that exchanges status effects with enemies, Auto-Life, and even more in FFXI. It wouldn't be that hard to tool Blue Mage into a tank using their identity of "get hit get magic".

i always thought sam would have fit well as a maiming class

In some circumstances, yes. However, it seems this incarnation of the Samurai is meant to more heavily resemble a Ronin (like Samurai Jack) rather than the heavily armored Samurai we usually see.

[Shurrikhan]

Except that's not longer quite the case. Dragoons now have the same magic defense as other melee jobs, but still higher physical defense. Honestly I feel like they could just combine their gear sets with Samurai and Monk at this point and eliminate maiming as a set entirely.

Also I was surprised that Red Mage didn't share scouting gear with Ninja as DEX could easily have been a primary stat for that job if it were designed more melee heavy than caster heavy.

If they just keep Dexterity and Strength as meaningless retitles of the same Attack Power stat, they could as easily make all the melee DPS share gear sets, same as the ranged DPS.

Honestly, though, when they released SAM I figured they'd be making that the new Maiming class, and that they might just remerge NIN and MNK, with the gear simply reading "Strength" when worn on Monk and "Dexterity" when worn on NIN, as in many other MMOs with power stats that differ only in name.